Fire Alarms in Buildings (2.0)

Alright…

A friend of mine says that it’s actually an Edwards/EST IRC-3 instead.

@Tesla_railfaning Could you tell us where you got that higher-res photo from? (since to me the original looks way too low-res & blurry for any AI to enhance to the extent that the higher-res one is like)

Your friend is wrong, here is an image of the IRC-3 (which would be FAST/EST, was never made under Edwards)

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It’s an IRC-3. I own a few of them and can confirm.

The top switch panel below the FIRE strobe faceplate is a SAN annunciator set containing SHO-4 switch annunciators. The one below it is another SHO-4 set with a SAN-COM control unit. Below that is a set of SWU-8 switch controls.

The second panel set contains another SANCOM, SWU-8 and SHO-4 set with an RMDP-1N main controller behind the guy’s head. As for the fire faceplate itself, they’re custom built for the cabinet I believe.

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What does the rmdp-1n look like, also Does anyone have pictures of a Firecom 8500? - #11 by Wei_Huan

Highlighted picture displays the writing and LCD display

Displayed here is from an official EST document also showing the same RMDP-1N

Thank you for providing the original link to the post containing the supposed 8500. I don’t think I’ve seen this before.

I stand corrected, very cool to know that setup is a thing

Definitely a custom setup, Usually their taller cabinet is the CB45 which is their biggest cabinet size with a 45.5” vertical rack space.

Those panels can be quite the monster, especially their ATPC amplifier racks seen here:

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It is your image. I’ll credit you. If you look at SafeTech’s Test # 73, you will see one on a 4002. I also know of at least one system that was near me that was either a 2001-8001, or a 4002 that had the red version.

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Good to know, the only reason I confirm it was because of a tech who said it looked like one he had seen before so I wasn’t entirely sure either which probably was not very smart idea to jump to conclusions after looking back at what I said. Firecom has been a long time Edward’s distributor and partner and services those systems too so it probably has something to do with the possibility of a similar design and or why he said it was one.

Most NYC Class E systems looked pretty similar back then speaking to other old NYC techs, some left Firecom to start their own companies and brands and made very similar looking systems, those brands later got bought out by Firecom.

Could you send that manual btw?

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The Home Depot (Elizabethtown, KY)

Panel: Some Silent Knight Panel, Pulls: Older Silent Knight Pulls, Alarms: Red Celling Mount Spectralert Strobes (I’m guessing the advance)

Buffalo Wild Wings (Elizabethtown, KY)

Panel: IDK, The Pulls Are RSG T-Bars And The Alarms Are Wheelock Exceders

Malibu Jacks (Elizabethtown, KY)

Panel: Potter Voice Evac, The Pulls Are Potter Lift And Pull The Alarms Are Weird It’s A Federal Signal Selectone In The Celling Next To It Is A Spectralert LED Strobes

IHOP (Elizabethtown, KY)

The Pulls Are Tyco BG-12s And The Mix Of AS And L-Series Wall Mount On A Ceiling

Five Below (Elizabethtown, KY)

The Alarms Are Ceiling Mount L Series And Honeywell BG-12s

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I’ve noticed that there’s a lot of Silent Knight in Home Depots.

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I’ve noticed that too, whereas Lowe’s’ always seem to have Radionics or Bosch systems instead.

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Original system had non coded pulls and 4040s with another one outside with a projector horn that’s pretty high up.





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Nice finds! That separate strobe & speaker combo is quite unusual to say the least (especially in the way the speaker’s mounted, though it might have to have been mounted that way due to the screw hole arrangement on the plate).

Any idea what that 4000-series horn could be for? (aside from maybe the exterior fire alarm signal since the bell next to it is clearly the sprinkler signal)

Ever heard that system sound by any chance? (& if so what does it sound like?)

The 4040s are abandoned in place, they were on the original system many of the buildings had. Some examples from across the whole campus.





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My local Lowe’s originally had a Silent Knight system with Wheelock AS and RSS devices. Recently, the panel was replaced with a Bosch, but they kept the old notification appliances. We had a Home Depot in our area that was built right across the street from Mendards in the 2000s. Unfortunately, that only lasted around a year, as people just went to Menards instead. Lowe’s is on the other side of town, so it’s not in as much competition with Menards.

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Oh? Neat. You really ought to see if all of that can be saved given its age & rarity!

Oh? Huh…

There’s a ton of vintage abandoned stuff but I wouldn’t know how to obtain it. Simplex themselves work on it and most of the stuff I want has already been replaced and I’m thinking a few other 4100+ panels might have been on the campus. As finding gentex speaker strobe plates, oddly with a 4006 and a 4100U. I want is to figure out what panel that building had due to odd setup. In the main building there’s Truenac speaker strobes everywhere. Almost all the buildings have a very odd setup that backs off of the original and (If the building ever had) second system.

No, I’ve only ever heard one of what’s called the neighborhood dorms. (Which there’s a few different installations of, not all of them are the same) We never get false alarms with how they setup the system, only the room sounder base and the outdoor horn (Wheelock AS or MT)

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I highly doubt Simplex works on anything as old as that, but perhaps you could ask university staff about it.

All very odd indeed…

Oh, alright.