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Re: What alarm do you have at work/school

Postby thegeet » Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:45 pm

Elementary:
Panel: Probably Fire Lite or Notifier
Smoke detectors: TBA
Pull Stations: BG-10's/12
Notification appliances: EST Integrity Horn Strobes

Junior High:
Panel: Notifier NFS-320 for main area:SK- 4 in Gym 2
Smoke detectors: System Sensor i3
Pull Stations: BG-12/NBG-12(L) (& BG-10 in Gym 2)
Notification appliances: Wheelock NS-24MCW-FR, Wheelock RSS-24MCW-FR, Wheelock MTWP-2475W-FR, Wheelock HSR, Wheelock HSRC, and SpectrAlert SCW. Gym 2: Wheelock MT-24-LSM.

High School :
Panel: Most likely Notifier NFW.
Smoke detectors: NFP-851
Pull Stations NOT BG-12(L)
Notification appliances: System Sensor PC2W, P2W, P2WK, SCW, and SW, with P2R and SR in Vocational and Freshman buildings and 2 Faraday 5640 and 1 Faraday light below one horn.
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Re: What alarm do you have at work/school

Postby idontwannaknow » Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:00 pm

Elementary School had a Simplex System, with Simplex 4903-9219 horn strobes in all of the built hallways and classrooms, which were pretty loud as I presume. I believe they also had these mechanical horns in the bathrooms too, as when I revisited the school when my sister did a tour, I used the bathroom and there was a horn strobe right above the urinals, RIP. Smoke detectors are 2908-9201s and pulls are 2099-9795s.

In the newer parts of the elementary school and the intermediate school there were Simplex TrueAlert 4906-9127 horn strobes in all the hallways and classrooms. These were the ones I and the rest of my class were deathly afraid of and would cover our ears during a drill. There were strobes in the bathrooms thankfully. Smoke detectors are Simplex TrueAlarm 4098-9714s and the pull stations are Simplex 4099-9001s.

Middle School was most likely an Edwards System, with Gentex SHG horn strobes in the hallways and gym, as well as Gentex GX-90 horn/strobes in the classrooms, bathrooms, and pretty much anywhere else you can cram an alarm into, which leads to me seeing a GX-90 in a tiny storage room! In some of the renovated areas, you could see Commander 3s in some areas where the older alarms died, but what was surprising was if an alarm died in a classroom, a Commander 3 strobe would be in there instead of a horn-strobe, which was relieving because I had a class in one of those rooms. I forgot what the smoke detectors were, but all the pull stations were Edwards Signaling MPSRs. One thing I think was is that before the SHGs/GX-90s, the alarms were Federal Signal Vibratone 450Ds with VALS non-ADA strobes screwed in. Why I think this is because in two areas in the hallways, there appears this alarm, one in a long hallway, and one by an exit door. Not only this, but in one of my classes in 7th grade had this alarm INSIDE THE CLASSROOM. I never heard it go off in there, but I did walk past one going off during a fire drill, and it was easily louder than the SHGs.

High School has two buildings, one with a Siemens FireFinder system (it's having issues, the alarms went off 4 times in two weeks), and one with a Simplex 4010 system.

The Siemens building has Siemens ZH ceiling mounted horn strobes in the hallways, classrooms, and one large bathroom. There are occurring wall mounted ZHs as well, and there's an RSS rebranded by Siemens in the boys' locker room. (Originally, the building had U-MMTs, MTLs, and AS rebrands. There were strobes in the classrooms.) Detectors are Siemens HFP-11s and pulls are Siemens MSM-Ks with Stopper II covers.

The other building has Simplex 2901-9846 horns on 4903-9105 strobe plates and TrueAlert 4906-9127s. In classrooms, bathrooms, and smaller areas, the alarms are either 4904-9105 strobes, or TrueAlert 4906-9101 strobes. Newly renovated areas have Wheelock ceiling mounted Exceeder horn-strobes and strobes. Odd alarms are 2901-9840 and 4901-9805s in place of the usual 9846s, a 4904-9137 strobe in a bathroom instead of a 9105 strobe, and a weatherproof Wheelock MT in the pool locker rooms. Detectors are TrueAlarm 4098-9714s and pulls are 4099-9001s with Stopper II covers.

I am so glad I never had to deal with any SpectrAlert Advances in the schools.
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Re: What alarm do you have at work/school

Postby Simplex 4051 » Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:22 pm

So you said the building with the 9846s was the NEWER building. Did the OLDER building also have 9846s before the ZHs, U-MMTs, MTLs, and AS rebrands?
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Re: What alarm do you have at work/school

Postby idontwannaknow » Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:51 am

Simplex 4051 wrote:So you said the building with the 9846s was the NEWER building. Did the OLDER building also have 9846s before the ZHs, U-MMTs, MTLs, and AS rebrands?


I have no idea, though. My theory is before those alarms, it might've been Edwards Adaptabels, as there is one by a large doorway where the busses drop us off, and another one in an older hallway that has had no renovation other than carpeting and alarm replacement. (I believe the 9846s came with the newer building.)
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Re: What alarm do you have at work/school

Postby Simplex 4051 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:24 am

I assume the Adapabels are disconnected?
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Re: What alarm do you have at work/school

Postby firefreak57 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:05 pm

idontwannaknow wrote:Elementary School had a Simplex System, with Simplex 4903-9219 horn strobes in all of the built hallways and classrooms, which were pretty loud as I presume. I believe they also had these mechanical horns in the bathrooms too, as when I revisited the school when my sister did a tour, I used the bathroom and there was a horn strobe right above the urinals, RIP. Smoke detectors are 2908-9201s and pulls are 2099-9795s.

In the newer parts of the elementary school and the intermediate school there were Simplex TrueAlert 4906-9127 horn strobes in all the hallways and classrooms. These were the ones I and the rest of my class were deathly afraid of and would cover our ears during a drill. There were strobes in the bathrooms thankfully. Smoke detectors are Simplex TrueAlarm 4098-9714s and the pull stations are Simplex 4099-9001s.

Middle School was most likely an Edwards System, with Gentex SHG horn strobes in the hallways and gym, as well as Gentex GX-90 horn/strobes in the classrooms, bathrooms, and pretty much anywhere else you can cram an alarm into, which leads to me seeing a GX-90 in a tiny storage room! In some of the renovated areas, you could see Commander 3s in some areas where the older alarms died, but what was surprising was if an alarm died in a classroom, a Commander 3 strobe would be in there instead of a horn-strobe, which was relieving because I had a class in one of those rooms. I forgot what the smoke detectors were, but all the pull stations were Edwards Signaling MPSRs. One thing I think was is that before the SHGs/GX-90s, the alarms were Federal Signal Vibratone 450Ds with VALS non-ADA strobes screwed in. Why I think this is because in two areas in the hallways, there appears this alarm, one in a long hallway, and one by an exit door. Not only this, but in one of my classes in 7th grade had this alarm INSIDE THE CLASSROOM. I never heard it go off in there, but I did walk past one going off during a fire drill, and it was easily louder than the SHGs.

High School has two buildings, one with a Siemens FireFinder system (it's having issues, the alarms went off 4 times in two weeks), and one with a Simplex 4010 system.

The Siemens building has Siemens ZH ceiling mounted horn strobes in the hallways, classrooms, and one large bathroom. There are occurring wall mounted ZHs as well, and there's an RSS rebranded by Siemens in the boys' locker room. (Originally, the building had U-MMTs, MTLs, and AS rebrands. There were strobes in the classrooms.) Detectors are Siemens HFP-11s and pulls are Siemens MSM-Ks with Stopper II covers.

The other building has Simplex 2901-9846 horns on 4903-9105 strobe plates and TrueAlert 4906-9127s. In classrooms, bathrooms, and smaller areas, the alarms are either 4904-9105 strobes, or TrueAlert 4906-9101 strobes. Newly renovated areas have Wheelock ceiling mounted Exceeder horn-strobes and strobes. Odd alarms are 2901-9840 and 4901-9805s in place of the usual 9846s, a 4904-9137 strobe in a bathroom instead of a 9105 strobe, and a weatherproof Wheelock MT in the pool locker rooms. Detectors are TrueAlarm 4098-9714s and pulls are 4099-9001s with Stopper II covers.

I am so glad I never had to deal with any SpectrAlert Advances in the schools.


I am assuming the newer wing was built around 1993-1995, that is when the -9846's and 4903-9104's were put in at my school.
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Re: What alarm do you have at work/school

Postby idontwannaknow » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:54 pm

Yep, 1994! They're constructing way more onto it after Labor day and from the looks of it the new N/As are going to be ceiling mounted Exceeders. (It's better than Advances/'L's atleast)
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Re: What alarm do you have at work/school

Postby idontwannaknow » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:57 pm

Simplex 4051 wrote:I assume the Adapabels are disconnected?


Yes. When the alarms went off for the third time I walked out the doorway where the bells were and they were silent.
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Re: What alarm do you have at work/school

Postby Simplex 4051 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:06 pm

Are they replacing everything in the old system when it comes to the alarms?
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Re: What alarm do you have at work/school

Postby idontwannaknow » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:40 am

Simplex 4051 wrote:Are they replacing everything in the old system when it comes to the alarms?


I'm not too sure, but probably.
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Re: What alarm do you have at work/school

Postby ApolloDiscovery » Sun Sep 03, 2017 5:38 am

My school uses KAC Call Points, which os hooked up to a C-Tec Dimension panel, Apollo Discovery (smoke and heat detectors) with sounder bases with do Apollo's "Evacuate" tone, Discovery Open-Area Sounder (with and without beacons) which do Evacuate as well and Discovery Loop-Powered Beacons.
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Re: What alarm do you have at work/school

Postby LSSD_2002 » Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:06 pm

At my high school we have multiple buildings so I'll list the alarms per building.
Main building:
Notification:
Wheelock AS-24-110W-FR
Wheelock RSS-24-110W-FR
Wheelock MTWP-24-WM-VFR (Outdoors)
ALSO they forgot to replace a few of the horn strobes in the auditorium so
(1) Simplex 4903 9219
(2) Simplex 2901 9846 under 2901 9003 light plates

pulls:
Simplex 4251-21
Simplex 4251-20
Simplex 2099-9754
Simplex 2099-9756
Simplex 4251-113 (Cheveron)
Detectors:
Conventional TrueAlarms (Unsure of model number)
Panel:
Simplex 4005 (with 75 Zones!)

East building:
Signals:
Simplex 2901 9833, 2901 9838, and 2901 9806 horns under 2901 9003 light plates
No Detectors
Pulls:
4252-30 break glass pull stations
control panel:
Simplex 4001

Pods:
Side note: Whenever we have a fire drill, the U-MHU's never go off but the system goes into alarm... :shock:
Notification:
Siemens U-MHU-MCS
Siemens U-MCS
Pulls:
Siemens HMS-D
Detectors:
FP-11T Smoke and heat detector

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Re: What alarm do you have at work/school

Postby El Chupacabra » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:02 pm

One of the buildings at my university received a system upgrade during the summer. The previous setup, original from 1972, consisted of a Simplex panel (most likely a 4208) with this annunciator; the pull stations were bilingual 4251-series T-bars (some of which were older models with metal handles) and the signals were 4040 horns (along with a few 12901-9508 horns added in the early '90s).

The building now has a Simplex 4100ES panel. The annunciator was replaced with a remote InfoAlarm command center, while the pull stations were replaced with bilingual 4099-9001s and the signals were replaced with TrueAlert horn/strobes.

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Re: What alarm do you have at work/school

Postby Simplex 4051 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:52 am

Well anything is better than Advances then I should say am I right?
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Re: What alarm do you have at work/school

Postby ironmatic1 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:08 am

Simplex 4051 wrote:Well anything is better than Advances then I should say am I right?

Not really... Advances were cheap, had low current draw, worked, and looked pretty clean.
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