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Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:16 pm

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Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:11 am
Yeah I only just figured it out now. It's fine. It still looks weird but I know that is how it is supposed to be mounted.
Here's a picture from the Simplex website.
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Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:26 am

Yeah that does make sense since that is how the alarm seemed to be mounted in maxshaw's picture.
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Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:12 pm

So here is a good picture of a wall mounted Truealert ES speaker. I'll get a picture of a ceiling mounted one later this week hopefully (I have to figure out how to be discrete lol).
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This particular alarm was just installed last week, so it's brand new!
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Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:42 pm

Here's the ceiling mounted one. The fire lettering is a brighter red in real life, I don't know why it's so dark in this picture.
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Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:04 pm

I really do not like that design. I wish they just used the smaller strobe like on the wall-mount devices.
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Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:30 pm

The ceiling mount version I also agree doesn't look really nice. It's basically an intercom speaker with a strobe fused to it.
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Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:25 pm

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The ceiling mount version I also agree doesn't look really nice. It's basically an intercom speaker with a strobe fused to it.
And to think thats also what the horn/strobes look like...
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Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:59 pm

Yeah, I'm not a fan of the design, but I will admit, the sound quality is pretty good on them.
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Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:26 am

This version of the TrueAlert used to install on the ceiling is the reason why I don't particularly like ceiling mount alarms. The only thing that I think that looks good on the ceiling are smoke and heat detectors.
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Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:45 am

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This version of the TrueAlert used to install on the ceiling is the reason why I don't particularly like ceiling mount alarms. The only thing that I think that looks good on the ceiling are smoke and heat detectors.
Circular alarms with a strobe in the middle look fine though. It’s definitely more to blend stuff in and saves a lot of space/time than to rewire original alarm backboxes.

I’ve seen smoke detectors on the wall before, which don’t look very good..
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Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:21 pm

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I have been singing professionally with a church choir in my area for just over a month now, and we had a fire alarm test last week during and after rehearsal, so here's the system. The church is one large building made up of four distinct structures, all of which were recently connected to form the one large structure. By far, the notification appliances are the most interesting part.

System Control---Full Campus

-Simplex 4100ES---Main Control Panel (probably in a boiler or electrical room somewhere)
Simplex 4100-9607+4100-1292---4100ES Remote Command Center w/ Voice Capabilities (Main Vestibule)
Simplex 4603-9101---Remote Annunciators (I've seen three scattered around the campus)

Initiation Devices

Main Sanctuary+Vestibule
Simplex 4099-9004 Pull Stations
Simplex 4098-9792+4098-9714 TrueAlarm Addressable Smoke Sensors
Music Department Wing+Administrative Wings
A*T 5050-001 Pull Stations
System Sensor 2100 Smoke Sensors
System Sensor i3 2W-B Smoke Sensors (spot-replacements)
Multipurpose Hall/Dining Hall
Fire-Lite BG-12L Pull Stations
System Sensor i3 2W-B Smoke Sensors
System Sensor 5600 Heat Sensors
Christian Education Wing+Small Chapel
Simplex 4251-20 Pull Stations
Simplex 4098-9788+4098-9601 TrueAlarm Conventional Smoke Sensors (probably replacing older sensors)

Notification Devices

Main Sanctuary+Vestibule
Simplex 4906-9153 TrueAlert Speaker/Strobes
Simplex 4906-9157 TrueAlert Speaker Strobes
Simplex 4906-9103 Remote Strobes
**The system plays the Fast Whoop and Default Message, All Strobes Synced**
Music Department Wing+Administrative
System Sensor MASS-241575ADAS Sounder/Sync-Strobes
System Sensor SS24-1575ADAS Remote Sync Strobes
**Steady Coding, Swept Frequency Tone, All Strobes Synced**
Multipurpose Hall/Dining Hall
System Sensor P1224MCW SpectrAlert Classic Horn/Strobes
System Sensor SCW Remote Strobes
**Temporal 3 Coding, Mechanical Horn Tone, All Signals Synced**
Christian Education Wing+Small Chapel
Simplex 2901-9838+4903-9101 Horn/Strobe Plates
Simplex 4904-9101 Remote Strobes
**Temporal 3 Coding, Strobes Flash Continuously**
UPDATE

As of this weekend, the music and administrative wing have had a full upgrade.

System Control

Simplex 4100-9607+4100-1292---4100ES Remote Command Center w/ Voice Capabilities (Entrance to music department---replacing a 4603-9101)

Initiation Devices

Simplex 4099-9004 Pull Stations
Simplex 4098-9792+4098-9714 TrueAlarm Addressable Smoke Sensors

Notification Devices

Simplex TrueAlert 4906-9153 Speaker/Strobes
Simplex TrueAlert 4906-9101 Remote Strobes

***All A*T and System Sensor devices in this part of the campus have been removed***
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Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:44 pm

So its not really much of a change then as it now has the same alarms as the main sanctuary and vestibule now?
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Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:16 pm

Simplex 4051 wrote:
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So its not really much of a change then as it now has the same alarms as the main sanctuary and vestibule now?
That's the only real change I have seen. I haven't been into the other parts of the campus so I don't know if the Fire-Lite and/or System Sensor devices in the other wing are still there. I do know that the older Simplex devices in the chapel and education wings are still intact.
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Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:48 pm

Yay! There are still some electromechanical alarms that haven't been junked yet! :D
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Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:21 am

There’s been a SpectrAlert Advance weatherproof horn/strobe mounted outside the middle enterance. As far as I know there are no others in or out of the school. My assumption is that it’s a sprinkler alarm for when sprinklers ever get activated. Or it’s outdoor notification, but they could’ve just used a speaker/strobe.

It’s red with FIRE lettering/clear strobe; it’s outside the building with the new MNS system.
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