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Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:53 pm

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Theres a fourth floor/rooftop space that is also planned to have stuff and will EVEN HAVE A FIREPLACE! They’re doing a really good job at making the extention homely- oh back on topic theres a speaker/strobe mounted up there too.
Excuse me, this is a high school you're talking about??
Yep. I’m not going to reveal the school name due to privacy’s sake but its up there with the highest ranked schools in the US.



Anyways to update, the old Simplex alarm removal process has been going very smooth. There are no more Simplex horn/strobes, pull stations, smoke detectors, etc in the hallways, It’s all Siemens now. They had just finished up with the 8000s [third floor]. The first strobes in some classrooms and bathrooms are finally being removed and covered after a semester and a half. It looks weird to see my 8th period math class have nothing on the wall lol.
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I have been singing professionally with a church choir in my area for just over a month now, and we had a fire alarm test last week during and after rehearsal, so here's the system. The church is one large building made up of four distinct structures, all of which were recently connected to form the one large structure. By far, the notification appliances are the most interesting part.

System Control---Full Campus

-Simplex 4100ES---Main Control Panel (probably in a boiler or electrical room somewhere)
Simplex 4100-9607+4100-1292---4100ES Remote Command Center w/ Voice Capabilities (Main Vestibule)
Simplex 4603-9101---Remote Annunciators (I've seen three scattered around the campus)

Initiation Devices
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Christian Education Wing+Small Chapel
Simplex 4251-20 Pull Stations
Simplex 4098-9788+4098-9601 TrueAlarm Conventional Smoke Sensors (probably replacing older sensors)

Notification Devices
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Christian Education Wing+Small Chapel
Simplex 2901-9838+4903-9101 Horn/Strobe Plates
Simplex 4904-9101 Remote Strobes
**Temporal 3 Coding, Strobes Flash Continuously**
UPDATE

As of this weekend, the music and administrative wing have had a full upgrade.

System Control

Simplex 4100-9607+4100-1292---4100ES Remote Command Center w/ Voice Capabilities (Entrance to music department---replacing a 4603-9101)

Initiation Devices

Simplex 4099-9004 Pull Stations
Simplex 4098-9792+4098-9714 TrueAlarm Addressable Smoke Sensors

Notification Devices

Simplex TrueAlert 4906-9153 Speaker/Strobes
Simplex TrueAlert 4906-9101 Remote Strobes

***All A*T and System Sensor devices in this part of the campus have been removed***
UPDATE 2

Welp....the part of the upgrade I hoped wouldn't happen is finally happening. I stopped by work today and SimplexGrinnell was there in force. I walked into the vestibule of the Christian Ed Wing+Small Chapel and I saw a SimplexGrinnell tech sticking an address label on a brand new Simplex 4099-9004 pull station. The new pull is replacing a 4251-20. I walked into the first floor hallway and saw the new TrueAlert speaker/strobes on the walls. I looked up on the wall next to me and the 2901-9838+4903-9101 that had been there was gone and the backbox was covered. I started looking around and realized all the old signals and devices were gone and new, shiny TrueAlert 4906-9153s, TrueAlert 4906-9101s, TrueAlarm 4098-9792+4098-9714s, and 4099-9004s are either in their places or surface-mounted in new places.

Oh well... :|
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Yeah that is something that does suck so I feel for you.
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idontwannaknow wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:53 pm
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Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:14 pm

Excuse me, this is a high school you're talking about??
Yep. I’m not going to reveal the school name due to privacy’s sake but its up there with the highest ranked schools in the US.



Anyways to update, the old Simplex alarm removal process has been going very smooth. There are no more Simplex horn/strobes, pull stations, smoke detectors, etc in the hallways, It’s all Siemens now. They had just finished up with the 8000s [third floor]. The first strobes in some classrooms and bathrooms are finally being removed and covered after a semester and a half. It looks weird to see my 8th period math class have nothing on the wall lol.
That's cool, it just amazes me how the U.S. high schools are so massive and have everything in them. Here in Canada, I'm shocked if a highschool has an auditorium or even a pool. I think there is only one high school in my entire city with a pool.

Damn, that sucks. You should've checked the nearby dumpster, I'm pretty sure that's where the techs ended up throwing the devices into. It reminds me of a job I'm doing right now. We're replacing an Edwards 2280 system (original) in a 2 story family shelter with an Addressable Kidde VS4 system. Every device is getting replaced besides the 6" Bells. Which I gotta say, I appreciate it more as a tech than seeing an old system get taken out as a collector :lol: There's just something about looking down the halls and rooms and seeing the shiny new heats/smokes, and the bright red pull stations, replacing the yellowed out, faded and older devices.
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Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:16 pm

I don’t know man. I’m kinda excited to hear speaker/strobes for the first time LOL.
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Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:47 pm

I would like to hear them, but still would rather keep the horn/strobes if they are electromechanical. :P
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I would like to hear them, but still would rather keep the horn/strobes if they are electromechanical. :P
Electromechanical horn/strobes are really nice to listen to if you don’t have sensative hearing AND when the horns aren’t in classrooms. I could tell that the old TrueAlerts were definitely louder. Sadly, from observing pictures by the school over break, they might have removed each and every one of them.
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Sat Mar 30, 2019 4:50 pm

Even when they are in a classroom its still nice to listen to them. Just as long as you aren't in the classroom when they go off. XD
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Yep, no more Simplex alarms. I only saw a strobe in a storage closet but other than that everything is pretty much removed and covered.
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You think the strobe will be removed also?
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You think the strobe will be removed also?
The closet was down a hall and I only saw the tip of the light. The entire area has removed alarms so I’m guessing no.
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Maybe it is disconnected then.
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Deloitte's USDC in Lake Mary - where I am doing a 4-week assessment for a company called Specialisterne, which could lead to an internship and possibly full-time employment - has a rather interesting fire alarm system.

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Siemens XLS(?), possibly replacing an MXL

Initiating Devices
Pulls here are Cerberus Pyrotronics MSI-20Bs (single action), smokes are a mix of older CP models and newer Siemens FirePrint smokes.

Notification Appliances
Signals here are mostly Siemens rebranded Wheelock ZNS horn/strobes and ZRS strobes (wall and ceiling mounted), but there are ceiling mounted CP U-MCS strobes in the elevator lobbies! It wouldn't surprise me if they used to have U-MMT-MCS or U-HNH-MCS horn/strobes.
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Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:41 pm

Hope that they used to have U-MMTs so it would be one electronic alarm replacing another one because it always breaks my heart when electromechanical horns get junked especially since the U-HNHs were made for the longest period of time an electromechanical horn can be made for fire alarm applications.
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Hope that they used to have U-MMTs so it would be one electronic alarm replacing another one because it always breaks my heart when electromechanical horns get junked especially since the U-HNHs were made for the longest period of time an electromechanical horn can be made for fire alarm applications.
Edit - I saw a U-MMT on the first floor lobby. There may be a mix of U-MMTs and ZNSs in the building!
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