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Attached is the campus from Google Maps - the high school is on the left.
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It looks like there is a walkway that connect the two buildings on the property. Is that an indoor hallway or just an outside path?

Yes I know that this does have absolutely nothing to do with the topic at the hand but I'm curious and my enquiring mind wants to know. LOL
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Simplex 4051 wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:38 am It looks like there is a walkway that connect the two buildings on the property. Is that an indoor hallway or just an outside path?

Yes I know that this does have absolutely nothing to do with the topic at the hand but I'm curious and my enquiring mind wants to know. LOL
It’s an outdoor path.
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My high school has Wheelock AS horn/strobes in a majority of the hallways and classrooms, with some SpectrAlert Advance ceiling mount horn/strobes and remote strobes in certain classes. The gym has Wheelock NS horn/strobes, and the exterior of the school has AH horns. For detectors, we have Apollo (Gamewell) smoke detectors, and for pull stations, we have old Gamewell pulls, probably from around the 60s.
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That sounds very interesting! Do you have an ideas on what was there before?
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Quentin Richards wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:13 pm ...for pull stations, we have old Gamewell pulls, probably from around the 60s.
If you're talking about the Century type, with the "bullseye" lever, those were actually made until ~2008, including in an addressable format.
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That is something that I didn't know either! That is really cool!
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I'm not sure about our fire detection and alarm system but I think we have a SK-5208 LOL.

Its similar to this one...

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Earlier this month, I made the decision to switch jobs, and I am now working at a different medical facility in a different city. The facility consists of a series of interconnecting buildings (with the first opening during the 1960s) and most of the devices are 1990s-era Simplex models at the oldest. There are some vintage Simplex Time Recorder Co. square clocks still installed, so I'm guessing Simplex was the original alarm system here, also.

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>A series of Simplex 4100 and 4120 voice-evac models with cabinet annunciators throughout different sections of the building
>In a reception desk area near an auditorium, there is what appears to be an old annunicator painted over with white paint and mostly obstructed by office furniture. I'm guessing it was a Simplex 4207 or 4208

Detectors:
>Simplex 4098-series "TrueAlarm" addressable detectors, one of which is mounted on a Simplex 2098-series base
>Gentex 9000-series ionization detectors above elevator corridors

Pull stations:
>Simplex 2099-series single-action t-bars throughout
>Blue STI push-button devices used for general emergency/security situations

Notification appliances:
>Simplex 4902-9721 speakers
>Simplex 4903-series speaker/strobes and speakers (the latter of which are found only in the stairwells)
>Simplex 4904-series strobes
>Simplex 4906-9102 strobes
>Simplex 4906-series "TrueAlert" speaker/strobes and strobes
>Simplex 4906-9254 speaker/strobes
>An unused guard shack has a flush-mount Edwards 89STR-A-AQ strobe on the outside.
>One stairwell has a tan-colored, wall-mount, and cylindrical-shaped speaker (make and model unknown) on the ground floor; surprisingly enough, that same stairwell has an exposed wiring box on the third floor where there used to be a 4903-series speaker!
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Well, I finally know the voice-evac message on the Cerberus Pyrotronics panel!

I showed a librarian as well as a gym teacher the first video below and they told me it was the exact same tone and message.

Now for something odd: The library (which has speaker/strobes) is surrounded by classrooms that each have a horn/strobe. The only way to get to those classrooms is through the library.
To get a good idea of what it's like to hear the system go off in that area, watch this and this simultaneously.




Also a few updates about the middle school:
1. The panel is in the boiler room.
2. A gym teacher told me the message has a female voice - it might be this one.
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I have a new update which sheds a little light on some of the original 1960s alarm devices at my workplace.

While having a holiday party in a conference room on a dedicated event hall floor, I noticed a flush-mount Simplex plate on the ceiling (the one with the grid pattern for the sound opening); upon closer inspection, I discovered a Federal Signal SelecTone speaker inside! That same room has a Simplex 4903-series speaker/strobe, so I don't know if the SelecTone speaker even works anymore, but this was an interesting find nonetheless!

On another interesting note, just down the hall from the conference room is a set of doors which leads into a cooling room (I believe for the ventilation on the roof); next to these doors is an Edwards AdaptaBeacon (with a red strobe) with a blue-colored pull station (Reliable Security Group RMS-series; hex lock) used as a door release!
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My school shares a system with the rest of the shopping complex it is located in.
Panel: Notifier NFS-3030
Pulls: Notifier NBG-12LX
Notifier MPS-950B (rebranded by Tyco/Grinnell)
Signals: System Sensor P2R
Mircom FHS-240R

There is also a local system, set up for drills.
Panel: Potter SFP-???? (not sure on model)
No Initiating Devices
Alarms: Potter SH-1224 horns
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So you go to school in a portion of a shopping complex where it is located? That actually sounds pretty cool! I have only really ever heard of a few schools located in buildings like this.
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YYC Fire Alarms wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:00 pm My school shares a system with the rest of the shopping complex it is located in.
Panel: Notifier NFS-3030
Pulls: Notifier NBG-12LX
Notifier MPS-950B (rebranded by Tyco/Grinnell)
Signals: System Sensor P2R
Mircom FHS-240R

There is also a local system, set up for drills.
Panel: Potter SFP-???? (not sure on model)
No Initiating Devices
Alarms: Potter SH-1224 horns
There are... two separate systems? So in the event of an actual emergency, does one panel trip the other? That seems more than a little overkill to me and depending on the circumstances could definitely be illegal.
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EpicFireAlarms wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:06 pm
YYC Fire Alarms wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:00 pm My school shares a system with the rest of the shopping complex it is located in.
Panel: Notifier NFS-3030
Pulls: Notifier NBG-12LX
Notifier MPS-950B (rebranded by Tyco/Grinnell)
Signals: System Sensor P2R
Mircom FHS-240R

There is also a local system, set up for drills.
Panel: Potter SFP-???? (not sure on model)
No Initiating Devices
Alarms: Potter SH-1224 horns
There are... two separate systems? So in the event of an actual emergency, does one panel trip the other? That seems more than a little overkill to me and depending on the circumstances could definitely be illegal.
Since the NFS-3030 covers the whole complex, not just the school, tripping the system for required fire drills would cause the whole plaza to evacuate. The Potter is a mock system, used only for drills. It will not activate in a real emergency. It's pretty easy to tell when there's a real fire, because the main system does Code 3, but the drill system does march time. The systems are not linked or connected in any way. If the Mircoms go off, then it's a real emergency. If the Potter horns go off, it's a drill. Sorry if I'm making absolutely no sense.
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