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Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:45 am

This next middle school (2 out of 3) is the Hingham Middle School
In most of the school, the alarms are Gentex GMS horn/strobes

Located in the distance learning center, family and consumer science and third floor computer lab are Gentex SHG horn/strobes with the DLC having a newer version and the FACS and computer lab having the older ones

Two rooms. the library and the language lab have Faraday 6120 horns on Space Age Electronics AV34 strobe plates

Over in the weight training classroom, there is a Standard 450 horn on a Standard 450 light plate original to the school but since that room didn't have to have an ADA-compliant alarm in there, it stayed

The nurse's office and the carpentry lab have Wheelock MT horn/strobes

Finally, the speech lab, first floor computer lab and second floor computer lab have Edwards Genesis horn/strobes
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McLane Elementary was once the city's high school, however with the arrival of a new building, the elementary school was moved to this building.

Building was built in the mid-1960s, and none of the original alarms remain. Original alarms were Simplex 4050s that were eventually replaced over time. Pulls were Chevron pulls, however, for an unknown reason, a pull rod was installed in the cafeteria and remains, however not connected to the system.

In 1997, A building renovation occurred in the 11th grade wing due to a roof leak. All alarms in that wing were replaced with EST Integrities, and pulls were replaced with Edwards SIGA pulls. The panel at that point was upgraded to an EST panel.

In 2003, the High School was moved out of the building and the Elementary moved in. It was at that point that the Chevrons and 4030s were phased out and replaced with Simplex TrueAlerts. Pulls became Simplex break glass pulls. A Simplex 4010 was also installed in another part the building to power the TrueAlerts and Pulls. It was linked to the EST panel.

In 2005, the EST panel became inoperable and was replaced with a EST QuickStart 4. Some of the Edwards devices in the building were also converted to Simplex devices during the upgrade. All smoke and heat detectors were changed to Simplex 4098-9714 TrueAlarms at this time as well, and linked to the 4010.

In 2017, most alarms in the building (Pulls, detectors, door closers, notification appliances, etc.) were removed and replaced with new Simplex TrueAlert ES equipment. The Simplex 4010 was replaced with a brand new Simplex 4100ES, the QuickStart 4 remains in the office, while powered down. It may be re-introduced to the system at some point to power a few Edwards devices left behind in the upgrade. In the classrooms, Simplex 5900 Series LED alarms were placed, Larger classrooms have Multi-Tone TrueAlert ES devices. In the hallways, Addressable Speakers were placed. In the place of a PA system, Simplex 4902-9721 speakers are used. In the small classrooms, one speaker is placed in the center of the classrooms, large classrooms have two, placed in the West and East corners. In the hallways, two speakers are mounted across from each other on the wall every 25 feet. Auditorium, Gymnasiums, Cafeteria, and Computer Labs (soon to be phased into special education classrooms) have an addressable speakers. For PA, The auditorium has two 4902-9721s, Gyms have four, cafeteria has four, and special education classrooms have three.

In the future, the Edwards devices will either be replaced or re-introduced, however no foreseeable solution has occurred.
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Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:18 am

This will be the final middle school that I am doing before I go and do three high schools. This is the setup of East Middle school and how their system is put together.
In most of the school, the alarms are Siemens U-HNH horn/strobes

Located in the carpentry, computer technology and in-school suspension classroom are Amseco BZ-54VTs on Space Age Electronics AV32 strobe plates

Two areas, the dance floor and the drama classroom have Faraday 6120 horn/strobes

Over in the library, there is a Wheelock 7002T horn/strobe

The family and consumer sciences kitchen and the band classroom have Gentex Commander 3 horn/strobes

Finally, the STEM lab, weight room and public speaking classroom have Classic SpectrAlerts
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East Rockwell high school was built in 1983 with a simplex 2001-8001 system. The system consisted of simplex 4251-20 pulls and simplex 2903-9001+2901-9833 horns installed in each classroom and in hallways.

In 2006-2007, the school put in a career and technical education (CTE) wing with a new system controlling that wing due to the lack of available expansion on the 2001 and due to the age of it (this would be an issue for the new panel due to both of them being 24 years apart and due to incompatible hardware, would cause both panels to randomly trip each other often). In that wing, an est fire shield was installed with Edwards 270-SPO pulls and est genesis horn strobes installed in each classroom and in hallways.

in 2017, both systems were replaced with a single panel. An EST 3 was put in to replace both panels and to keep the building up to code. The new system consists of SIGA-278 pulls and EST genesis speaker strobes with the default message and fast whoop ;however, the genesis horn strobes and the pulls from the fire shield system were re-wired to the EST3.
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This is the first of three middle schools that I am doing, which is Brookfield East high school.
In most of the school, the alarms are Edwards 892-2B horn/strobes

Located in the gymnasium foyer and the family and consumer science kitchen are Standard 450 horns on Standard 450 light plates

One office, the math interventionist's room has a Simplex 4051 horn on a 4050-80 light plate

Over in the resource classroom, there is a Gentex SHG

The media center and the health classroom have Classic SpectrAlerts

Finally, the computer science classroom has a Wheelock NS
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Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:08 pm

I think it's time to revive this topic. The Smallview Community and Convention Center in Smallview, Oregon is a 125,000 square-foot building that was built in 1988. The building was really more like two buildings with a shared lobby; a 60,000 square-foot convention center/arena-type place, and a 60,000 square-foot community center with a gymnasium, pool, and track, among other things. Each building was controlled by a separate Simplex 2120 panel, although both were linked together and would activate the other in an emergency. The community center portion of the building, along with the lobby and some parts of the convention center had Simplex 2901-9833 horns on Simplex 2903-9101 strobe plates. The actual convention center itself had flush-mounted Simplex LifeAlarm speakers coded to the Simplex slow-whoop tone mounted above Simplex 2904 remote strobes. Additional 2904 strobes were installed where needed throughout the building, and the exterior of the building had several 2901-9833 horns as well. Both buildings had Simplex 4251-30 pull stations and Simplex 2098-series smoke detectors.

Between 1991 and 1995, several pull stations were broken or otherwise found to be defective. Each time, they were replaced with a NOS 4251-30.
The same goes for one -9101 strobe plate, which was also replaced with an NOS -9101.
In 1998, a new concessions area was added to the back of the lobby area. A new Simplex 4903-9219 horn/strobe was installed, along with two 4904 remote strobes. Additionally, a 4251-30 in the vicinity was replaced with a Simplex 4099-9001 pull station.
Around the same time (I'll say 1997-2004ish), a number of other spot-replacements took place; each time a Simplex 4901 horn and in some cases a -4904 strobe plate were installed, including one horn spot-replacement in place of a LifeAlarm speaker. Yikes!
In 2004, the entire building underwent a full fire alarm upgrade to bring it to code. Both 2120 panels were replaced by a single Simplex 4100U control panel (and an additional Simplex 4003 voice-evac panel). All of the horns, horn/strobes and strobe plates were replaced by Simplex 4903-9357 TrueAlert-series speaker/strobes. Simplex 4099-9006 pull stations replaced the old pull stations, and new Simplex TrueAlarm smoke detectors replaced the old 2098 models. The Simplex LifeAlarm speakers in the convention center were kept as they still worked fine and were up to code, but the 2904 remote strobes were all replaced by TrueAlert remote strobes. All exterior alarms remained the same. This is largely how the system remains to this day, with a few changes...
(any spot-replacements during this time were done with the same devices)

In 2008, the lobby was remodeled and several new Simplex 4906-9154 ceiling-mount speaker/strobes were installed. The next year, a new elevated track was put in the gymnasium and more 4906-9154 speaker/strobes were installed.

In 2015, one of the exterior alarms died. It was replaced with a Wheelock MT4.

In 2018, some offices within the building were remodeled. Interestingly, System Sensor SPSCWL speaker/strobes were installed.

Finally, in January 2019, a LifeAlarm in the convention center died and was replaced with a System Sensor SPWL speaker.
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EpicFireAlarms wrote:
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In 2004, ... Simplex 4099-9006 pull stations replaced the old pull stations...
The 4099-9006 did not exist in 2004. The 4099-9003 did.
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Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:16 pm

This is the setup of the second high school that I am doing which is the Roy C. Ketchum High School and the alarm placements within its floor plan.
The hallways all have Space Age Electronic 2DCD horns on AV32 flashers

The biotechnology, astronomy and living environment labs each have a Fire-Lite STH-71 horn/strobe

The drafting and photography classrooms have Amseco BZ-54VTs with RSD-24L strobes attached

The weight room has Siemens U-HNH horn/strobes

The auxiliary gymnasium library have Edwards Genesis horn/strobes

Finally, the keyboarding, orchestra and electronics classrooms have System Sensor MASS2415ADAs on 2400Hz continuous
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Louise Rowe K-8 School was originally built as Louise Rowe Elementary School in 1920. It was built as a 3-story building. A number of renovations and expansions occured over the years (1945 - Classroom Addition; 1968 - New Cafeteria, conversion of existing lunchroom into classroom space; 1990 - Classroom/Media Center Addition, new elevator, fire sprinklers, HVAC installation, fire alarm/clock/bell/intercom upgrades; 2005 - HVAC upgrade, new boiler; 2013 - 6-8 Classroom and Gym addition, campus renovations, fire alarm upgrade, new intercom and master clock headend equipment).

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Panel
  • Current System - Siemens XLSV
  • 1990 System - Notifier System 5000
  • Original System - Faraday AC System tied into an Edwards system for the 1968 addition
Initiating Devices
  • Current System - Pull stations are all Siemens rebranded RSG T-Bars behind Stopper II covers. Smoke Detectors all are Siemens FDO421s, and heat detectors are all Siemens FDT421. AHUs have System Sensor Innovairflex Duct Detectors.
  • 1990 system - Pull stations were a mix of Notifier BNG1s, FCI MS-2s, and Simplex 2099s. Smoke detectors were mostly System Sensor 2400s with a few ESL detectors in the mix.
  • Original system - Pulls were Faraday Chevron pulls, with the 1968 building having Edwards 270 pulls. No heat or smoke detectors were installed. The 1920 building had pull rods as well.
Notification Appliances
  • Current System - Signals here are Siemens rebranded Wheelock S8-24MCC speaker/strobes in the hallways and classrooms. Some offices and areas requiring additional speaker coverage have S8-70 speakers. Restrooms have Siemens rebranded ZRS strobes. The gym, cafeteria, media center, and auditorium have Siemens rebranded ET70 speaker/strobes. Outside, there are Wheelock STH speakers, with RSSWP strobes next to them. Locker rooms have Siemens rebranded Wheelock ET70WPs.
  • 1990 system - Signals were System Sensor MASSLO horn/strobes set to 800hz continuous. Most restrooms have System Sensor remote strobes. Classrooms have Wheelock MIZ horns. Some MASSLOs and MIZs were replaced with Wheelock AS horn/strobes.
  • Original system - The 1920 and 1945 buildings had Faraday Type 2 horns, and the 1968 building had Edwards Adaptahorns, both coded to 4-4-4-4
Intercom/Master Clock/Bell
Intercom System
  • Head-End
    • Current System - Telecor XL
    • 1990 System - Rauland Telecenter III
    • Original System - Executone
    • Speakers/Call Switches
      Current System - The 1920, 1945, 1968, and 1990 buildings retain the same speakers and call switches from the 1990 system. Hallways, the cafeteria, media center, and auditorium have wall mounted Rauland baffle speakers. All classrooms have MTC clock/speaker combos with Rauland call-in switches. Outside, there are Rauland waterproof baffle speakers. The 2013 addition has wall mounted mounted Telecor speakers in the hallways, locker room, and gym. Telecor clock/speaker combos are installed in classrooms, as well as call-in switches. Outside, there are Atlas horn speakers.
    • Original System - The old system in the 1920 and 1945 buildings had Executone speakers throughout with classrooms in the 1920 and 1945 having Standard Electric Time clock/speaker combos with some sort of phone. The 1968 buildings had Atlas Soundolier speakers in the halls and cafeteria, with Simplex clock/speaker combos and call-in switches in classrooms.
  • Bell
    • Current system - 5-Second Tone over intercom
    • 1990 System - Westminster Chime Tone over intercom
    • Original System - The old system had Standard Electric Time 6-Inch Bells in the 1920 and 1945 buildings with 10-Inch bells outside, and Simplex STR 4 inch bells in the 1968 building, with 10-inch bells outside. All classrooms had buzzers in the clock.
Master Clock
  • Panel - Sapling SMA 2000 replacing a MTC-6000D, original system was a Simplex R-83 replacing the original Standard Electric Time model
  • Clocks
    • Current system - the 1920-1990 buildings have a of MTC, Rauland and Sapling analog clocks. The 2013 addition has Sapling wired digital clocks.
    • Original system - the whole school previously had both Simplex and Standard Electric Time analog clocks throughout
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Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:24 pm

This is the final high school which I am going to do, which is the North Middlesex Regional high school.
In most of the school, the alarms are Simplex 4051 horns on 4050-80 flashers

Located in the TV Studio, there is a Space Age Electronics 2DCD horn on an AV32 flasher

Two rooms, the business technology lab and the weight training room have Edwards 892-2B horn/strobes

Over in the special education life skills classroom, there is a Federal Signal 450D horn with a VALS strobe

The chorus room and the media center have Simplex 4903-9236 horns

Finally, the exterior of the school has Wheelock MTs
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