What are some things that the General Public misconceives about Fire Alarms that drive you crazy?

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Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:34 pm

"oh my god the pull station smell smoke so the fire sprinnkles spray water". In the first spongebob movie the all of the fire sprinklers in shell city activated because smoke touched one of them. People overestimate the sensitivity and false alarm proneness of fire alarm systems.

Spongebob and Patrick would have burned to death if they existed in real life.
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Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:30 am

Yeah but that was a children's movie and I doubt having the protagonists, despite together have a combined IQ someone in the low 200s burn alive wouldn't be good for movie sales.
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Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:48 pm

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Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:27 pm
Then maybe the pull stations did have tamper dye on them but I remember the one outside the kindergarten classrooms was the only one that looked like it was leaking and that was the only one I remember. Of course, by the time I started to take more notice of fire alarms, we had a new principal so maybe he didn't use the dye and there was dye on other pull stations but I didn't see it.
An apartment company we work for has them all over their pull stations, and the dye is very hard to get off.

Also I've always hated when people will point to the heat detector and tell me it's beeping. I get many service calls for this, the one time this lady was very persistent the beeping noise was coming from her heat detector. I heard the beeps and found out it was her water heater :roll:
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Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:43 am

OHHHHHHHH THIS IS A GOOD ONE I SINCERELY APOLOGIZE FOR NOT TELLING THIS STORY EARLIER. So when we were practicing our emergency drills on the third day of school, our history teacher pointed to the new Siemens ALERT speaker/strobe on the ceiling, but she completely confused those with the lockdown strobes found outside, and in areas IE the gyms/commons because they are both white. Even though the alarm clearly had a clear strobe (ha), she said that it flashed BLUE like those other ones. Even some other students were confused with that assumption.

It never went off the whole time lol

Thankfully later in the year where the school decided to get us to understand where to go for a lockdown, or print media teacher (shes in a lot of technology based “jobs” so she understands this stuff) said that the blue strobes are for when the school goes on lockdown so any buses that come can see them and as such will take the students elsewhere for safety. The speaker/strobes would let the occupants know there is a lockdown and would list off several places to go (pre-recorded by school I’m guessing) and it would say to not go outdoors.

NOTE: I did not actually hear the message thats just what the teacher told us:
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Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:17 pm

Well I'm sure that eventually you will get to hear the message.
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I agree that the assumption of strobes making noise is annoying. We were at my church and I had to explain to my dad that a Gentex Commander 3 strobe did not make sound by comparing it to a horn-strobe, which obviously makes a sound because it has slits.
My school has normal bells that sound like Spectralert Advance, but the fire alarm bell sounds like someone whacking a glass with a fork. 50s fire alarm logic.
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Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:35 pm

I am also guilty of that because in elementary school I REFUSED to go to the bathroom because I thought the 4903 strobes were alarms. Thinking back on it, I realize how dumb that was. :lol:
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Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:02 pm

People thinking that call point upon activation spill ink on your fingers. This drives me bananas every time I see hear someone affirming it mordicus (=affirm as it was true)

But yeah I also believed it, oh well.
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Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:26 pm

I didn't even know that there was a variation of that rumor that was used with call points instead of just pulls. You learn something new everyday.
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Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:08 pm

Simplex 4051 wrote:
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I am also guilty of that because in elementary school I REFUSED to go to the bathroom because I thought the 4903 strobes were alarms. Thinking back on it, I realize how dumb that was. :lol:
My elementary school had no remote strobes. They had Wheelock 7004ts. The bathrooms either had a Wheelock 7004t. or no NA inside.

I used to think the NAs detected smoke and that the actual smoke detectors were not connected to the fire alarm system, but were like household ones detecting smoke and sounding an alarm from the detector itself.
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I didn't even know that there was a variation of that rumor that was used with call points instead of just pulls. You learn something new everyday.
I too didn't know such a rumor existed, but it might be true in my area, but not with FA call points, I have no idea where I heard about that tho..
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Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:45 pm

Hoo boy, you hear a lot of misconceptions over the years:
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  • When one sprinkler goes off they all go off.
  • Pulling a pull station sets off the sprinklers (all of 'em)
  • Every fire alarm device detects smoke
  • You can 'turn off' the system by 'turning off' the pull station
  • Calling any false alarm (or even NAs themselves) "fire drills"
Back when my dad was a school administrator, he had a discipline case where a student went into the bathroom presumably to smoke weed or something. There was video evidence of him walking into the bathroom, then running out of it soaking in dirty sprinkler water. Clearly, a sprinkler head had gone off over him, and those things don't "just go off".
Well, in the hearing, the school district couldn't put two and two together, and thus let him off scot-free because they couldn't connect the sprinkler system going off with the dirty water the kid was soaked with. Apparently, there wasn't enough "evidence".
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Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:16 pm

It is really sad when people can't put together two things that are so obvious and let the perpetrator who obviously did break a law in it go free. :roll:
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