Schools not evacuating during a fire alarm

Discussion of all things related to fire alarms, including alarm systems, fire alarm collections, sirens, sprinklers, fire drills, evacuations, actual fires, building architecture, other kinds of safety drills like tornado and earthquake drills and such, etc.
Post Reply
User avatar
Simplex 2903-9101
Casual Participant
Casual Participant
Posts: 233
Joined: Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:09 am
YouTube Username: Fahrenheit4051

Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:59 pm

It seems a number of schools are implementing fire alarm policies whereupon the students aren't allowed to evacuate until the okay is given by the school administrators. My intuition would say that this is a dumb idea, especially considering many alarm signals are loud enough to drown out the PA system (I'm looking at you, SpectrAlert Advance). I also worry that we're heading toward an arms race between schools and would-be attackers, which is a very dangerous prospect.

On the flip-side, I do remember reading a couple years back that immediate evacuation usually isn't necessary in most cases. Perhaps the real test is to see if/how many students are injured or die due to not evacuating in districts that have these policies.

Any thoughts or opinions?
Did you hear about the film director who collected fire alarms?
No Integrity and dozens of unwanted Advances.
User avatar
randomperson
Serious Participant
Serious Participant
Posts: 325
Joined: Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:59 pm
Instagram: randomperson_firealarms
Location: Area code 781
Contact:

Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:00 pm

Two words: BAD IDEA.
Remember: Fire alarms are serious and should not be ignored.
Instagram - YouTube
Want to say hello? everysingletrouble3 -AT- gmail -DOT- com
User avatar
RSSAlarms
Casual Participant
Casual Participant
Posts: 78
Joined: Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:26 pm
YouTube Username: RSS alarms
Location: Portland,OR
Contact:

Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:05 am

Very absurd and pathetic policy. What if a real fire occurred and the administrators said not to evacuate, they are putting lives in danger, even people with disabilities are put in big danger. This should not exist. Fire alarms are meant to alert people of a fire. Installers don’t mount them for fun, they serve a purpose.
MayerFire
Casual Participant
Casual Participant
Posts: 141
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2016 5:55 am

Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:08 am

This has already been discussed here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9471

This procedure is increasingly being adopted in schools all across America. I've heard that some schools even go so far as to apply full lockdown procedures, which include barricading the doors to the classrooms, as soon as the fire alarm goes off, such that once the need to evacuate the building is confirmed, the people inside the classrooms first have to remove the barricade before being able to get out.
User avatar
idontwannaknow
Serious Participant
Serious Participant
Posts: 317
Joined: Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:34 am

Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:03 am

Yeah as soon as a fatality is called I hope the school administration realizes how idiotic this is. Good thing my school is not adopting this stunt...
draw
User avatar
DownsLife+Safety
Casual Participant
Casual Participant
Posts: 93
Joined: Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:49 am
YouTube Username: DownsLife&Safety

Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:30 pm

We have yet to adopt it. I'm hoping they're going to do some more reliable alternative if that ever gets implemented.
That being said, we have had people attempt arson at our school which did require a full evacuation. Luckily, we do have a verification of another school bell they manually activate to notify the trailers, so we can know when they do want us to evacuate already.
DownsLife&Safety ~ Inspiring to live safer lives
Find my YouTube Channel Here!

Also a noob at fire alarm systems. :P
User avatar
Simplex 4051
Dedicated Participant
Dedicated Participant
Posts: 2571
Joined: Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:35 am
YouTube Username: Goldenrod636
Location: Pawtucket, RI
Contact:

Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:38 pm

Not a good idea even if the fire sprinklers manager to control the fire because there could still be a lot of injuries due to smoke inhalation and getting lost in.a panic.

If schools are really that concerned about an armed intruder, they should go with police alarms because that could make the school slightly more safer than not evacuating if the alarms go off.
I'm exclusively on Skype now. Add me at amazee_dayzee. I don't do voice or video chats though.
User avatar
firedriller
Casual Participant
Casual Participant
Posts: 50
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:09 pm

Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:00 pm

Remoted controlled gun turrets
I think a good old-fashioned fire drill today- Mr Burns
Welcome to hogwarts- alarm panel
User avatar
firedriller
Casual Participant
Casual Participant
Posts: 50
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:09 pm

Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:02 pm

Remoted controlled gun turrets
I think a good old-fashioned fire drill today- Mr Burns
Welcome to hogwarts- alarm panel
User avatar
Simplex 4051
Dedicated Participant
Dedicated Participant
Posts: 2571
Joined: Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:35 am
YouTube Username: Goldenrod636
Location: Pawtucket, RI
Contact:

Sun Nov 18, 2018 12:39 am

I would think that they wouldn't want to make the school seem too much like prison (though to some kids, it already is prison to them :P ) so I don't think they would go that way. Also, what happens if somebody managed to get control of them?
I'm exclusively on Skype now. Add me at amazee_dayzee. I don't do voice or video chats though.
Post Reply