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wiley209
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Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:04 pm

Got some more new bits for my fire alarm collection, courtesy of an old throwout box in the Humanities building (good thing the custodian said they were planning on getting rid of these!)

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I got three of these Simplex 4251-20 pull stations! Hopefully I can try and get a B-key so I can pull and reset these as I like!

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I also got a Standard 200177 pull station! The back is missing though, but not a big deal for me, as I only like to display these. VERY tough to pull (I can see why they're replacing them at my college!)

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System Sensor 2451TH smoke detector. I like this because of how I see quite a bit of these at the college and at the office my psychologist works at!

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Faraday retrofit strobe plate. You'll notice I put one of my Faraday 6020 horns on it. If I'm not mistaken, this used to be in the Humanities building along with several others with the Simplex 4051 horns retrofitted onto them before the building was renovated. They still have one like this at the Administration building with a 4051 horn on it.

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My alarm collection so far.
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Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:26 pm

I now have a Simplex 2901-9806 fire horn in my collection! (I traded thesdx one of my Faraday 6020s for it.)

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2901-9806 on my 4050-80.

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On my 2903-9001 light plate.

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My alarm collection so far now.
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Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:34 pm

Got a few more things for my fire alarm collection recently...

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Simplex 4255 heat detector. I got this from my college's Fine Arts building, since the technical director kindly saved it for me (they replaced it with a new System Sensor/Notifier smoke detector.)

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Close-up of the tag info. I think Simplex rebranded these from the 1960s up until probably the early 1980s.

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The heat detector on its side.

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I also now have a Simplex 4251-30 pull station in my collection, thanks to TrueAlertSS! Here it is next to one of my 4251-20s.

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Both pull stations opened. Some things are different from the 4251-20 and some things aren't.

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Now my alarm collection is REALLY growing!
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Nice heat detector, I think twoplyboy on youtube has some video of one that was in a fire (and didn't make it out "alive" :( )
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Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:10 pm

It's been a while, but here are some more updates to my fire alarm collection...

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A Faraday F1G Chevron pull (non-addressable). I only put the break-rod in for the photograph; usually I just store the break rods separately from the pulls. I like how it can be reset using only an Allen screwdriver (albeit being the proper size).

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The pull station open. Pretty cool design, actually. It functions kind of similar to a Simplex T-bar (the button part, that is).

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The back looks quite different from the old Couch version of the pull station.

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Space Age Electronics HA24D horn. This is the same horn as the VA4 horn/strobes my college has.

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My Simplex 4051 horn! I found this in a trash box in the Administration building at my college.

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Tag info on the 4051 horn. Note the OLD Simplex logo on it.

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The 4051 on one of my 2903-9001 light plates. Looks pretty cool this way.

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4051 horn on my Simplex 4050-80, pictured with my 4251-30 pull. What you're seen was a common sight for me as a kid.

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The "Faraday/Misc." stuff in my fire alarm collection so far.

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The Simplex stuff in my fire alarm collection.
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Wed May 12, 2010 4:15 pm

Two new additions to my alarm collection today:

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I now have a real Simplex 4050-80 retrofit plate! The 4051 horn you see on it is not new; I've had that in my collection for some time now.

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Tag on the back. Note how it has a newer Simplex logo on it, unlike other Simplex devices from the 1970s. It also does not have a flashing circuit (as it is a 4050-80 and not a 4050-84.)

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Close-up of the lens. There is a light bulb in it too, but I haven't tested it yet (I may need a good power source to do so.)

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Function-wise, the 4050-80 is pretty much similar to the Simplex 2903-9001 light plate (both the 4050-80 and 2903-series had single and dual-bulb versions, 24VDC and 120VAC versions, and versions with flashing circuits!), but it is a bit more cumbersome to work with than the latter. I can see why Simplex discontinued them back in 1980!

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Upside-down retrofit plates! Simplex sometimes installed them this way, to my knowledge.

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My other new addition is a Simplex 4255-5 heat detector.

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Tag close-up. Note the "vintage" Simplex logo on it.

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My Simplex 4255-1 heat sensor next to the 4255-5. One big difference is that while the 4255-1 is actually a Chemtronics 500-series heat sensor, the 4255-5 was originally made by Edwards.

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The Simplex stuff in my collection (yeah, I have a LOT of 4251-20 pulls!)
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Thu May 13, 2010 10:08 pm

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My new Simplex 4265 heat detector! It is really a Chemtronics 400-series sensor rebranded.

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I also got some new bulbs for my light plates! Here is my Simplex 2903-9001 retrofit plate activated.

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The 4050-80 with the light on.

Also made a few videos of me testing the alarms...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeU5yaRtNJQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flLxeV20uTk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9XbdL0PAUQ
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Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:47 pm

Got some more new stuff for my alarm collection...

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Wheelock E50 speaker/strobe. I really like the design of it. I was also able to test it by connecting the speaker part to my stereo system:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMFyYjLzELE

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Simplex 2901-9838 horn. It is a tad larger than the Vibratones or Faraday's older 4x4-series horns, and is MUCH thinner.

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My 2901-9838 next to one of my Faraday 6020 horns (on the right); from the back they both look pretty much identical. I always figured the 6120-series of Faraday horns (and its rebranded versions) were essentially the 6020 series with a new grille design.

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I remember one user posted a picture of a Simplex 2901-9838 horn on a 4050-80 light plate at a J.C. Penny's store, so here is my recreation of that! It is actually a bit hard to do unless you're using the backbox.

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2901-9838 on one of my Simplex 2903-9001 light plates. It actually looks pretty cool this way, and was a rather common setup in the late 1980s (user TrueAlertSS had these exact same alarms at his elementary school, installed in 1989).

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Simplex 2098-9508 ion smoke detector head on one of my 2098-9536 bases. I'm glad I finally have a compatible smoke detector head for these!

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Top view. According to a tag on the 2098-9508 head, it was made in 1980.

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My alarm collection so far, with a few duplicate items not pictured.

Here is also what I will be getting very soon...
Space Age Electronics VA4 strobe plate (for my HA24D horn)
Simplex 4263 coded pull station
Simplex 2098-9201 smoke detector head
Simplex 2098-9636 smoke detector head

I'm also bidding on an IBM Chevron pull station, a Wheelock AS horn/strobe and a few TrueAlerts.
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Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:05 pm

New items for my fire alarm collection:

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Pictured with my existing Simplex 2098-9508 smoke detector are three new Simplex smoke detector heads on the 2098-9536 bases: a Simplex 2098-9642 head with a heat sensor, a Simplex 2098-9636 photoelectric head, and a Simplex 2098-9201 photoelectric head.

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At last, I finally have a "complete" SAE VA4 horn/strobe! Not sure how to hook up the strobe terminals to the horn, though (tried it with no luck). Is it supposed to be 4-wire operation or something? This one is 15 candelas, while the ones at my college are 30 to 75 candelas (the latter being more common).

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Here's something else interesting: a Simplex 4263-7 coded pull station! It does the coding of 5-1-2, and has the date of May 14, 1973 on it.

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The tag to the pull station.

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If you look closely, you can see a Couch logo on the bottom! I know Couch was the original maker of these pull stations, but I'm surprised they left their logo intact on it too! (Reminds me of Simplex's GX-90s.)
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Sat Jul 10, 2010 7:29 am

wiley209 wrote:At last, I finally have a "complete" SAE VA4 horn/strobe! Not sure how to hook up the strobe terminals to the horn, though (tried it with no luck). Is it supposed to be 4-wire operation or something? This one is 15 candelas, while the ones at my college are 30 to 75 candelas (the latter being more common).
Can you show a picture of the terminals on the horn? If there are two (+) and two (-), connect the power source to the first set of (+) and (-), then connect the strobe to the second set. If there are two terminals, connect both the power source and the strobe to the same terminals.
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Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:28 am

thesdx wrote: Can you show a picture of the terminals on the horn? If there are two (+) and two (-), connect the power source to the first set of (+) and (-), then connect the strobe to the second set. If there are two terminals, connect both the power source and the strobe to the same terminals.
I suppose I could, but I will describe it first: the first set of terminals (+) and (-) say "W1 STROBE", and the other says "W2 AUDIBLE." The connectors for the strobe are not spade-type terminal connectors (they aren't even bare at the end), but faston-blade connectors, which are difficult to try and screw into the terminals. The horn, I DO have the spade-type connector cables, so that makes it easy.
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Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:30 am

Look to the strobe side of the terminal block. There should be 3 flat pins sticking up from the PCB, labeled WP1 - WP3. Notice that WP2 has a + by it, and WP3 has the -. Hook the wires from the VA4 to those.

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