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Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:11 am

Here's an interesting video from Pyrochem on how outdoor Gasoline Station fire suppression systems works. I've seen suppression systems installed in some gas stations, but I've definitely seen stations where a suppression system isn't installed.

Also included in the video are computer renderings of a dual action Simplex Tbar, an Autopulse Z-10 panel (Simplex 4004R), and a Wheelock MT.



Also, here's a video of one of these systems in action:
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Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:39 am

I have NEVER seen a gas station system...
Are their common in Colorado(I believe you down in there)?
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Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:13 am

I saw a lot of these around Boston, but I've never seen one in the Midwest.

Some jurisdictions require them, but I'd say most don't.
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Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:20 am

lilrags16 wrote:I have NEVER seen a gas station system...
Are their common in Colorado(I believe you down in there)?
Like Firefly said, I pretty much only see these at newer gas stations (like the Costco gas station near my house, which is where I fuel up most of the time). I have no clue what the requirements are though.
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Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:23 am

It depends on local or state codes, I have determined. When I took a road trip to the South (Tennessee) I noticed that gas stations stopped having suppression systems after leaving New England. Just about every station in Maine, NH, VT, and Mass that I have been to has a suppression system installed. I guess the deal is that if it is not required by local fire codes, who's going to pay the extra expense of installing it, even if it actually does good and saves someone in a gas station fire?
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Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:16 pm

NewAgeServer wrote:It depends on local or state codes, I have determined. When I took a road trip to the South (Tennessee) I noticed that gas stations stopped having suppression systems after leaving New England. Just about every station in Maine, NH, VT, and Mass that I have been to has a suppression system installed. I guess the deal is that if it is not required by local fire codes, who's going to pay the extra expense of installing it, even if it actually does good and saves someone in a gas station fire?
In all honesty though, how often do catastrophic massive gas station explosions happen? Is a few billion spent annually in suppression for gas stations really necessary to protect against an extremely rare occurrence? Especially when most of the fuel is largely protected in an underground tank with a disconnect switch to stop the flow of gas?

Safety can go too far just as easily as it can be neglected.
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Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:12 pm

Well I think that if it can stop a fire before it ignites the gasoline and potentially causes an explosion then why not?

At the very least install a tank monitoring system to warn of pressure in the tank building up -- which could lead to an explosion.
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Cool video. They did a pretty good job recreating a Simplex dual-action T-Bar. As for systems, I've never really looked close, but alot of stations around here (MN area) do have Fuel Shutoff switch stations (usually STI Stopper® Stations under the Stopper covers) near the entrance to the store. I'll have to look more closely the next time.
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Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:50 pm

U8oL0 wrote:
lilrags16 wrote:I have NEVER seen a gas station system...
Are their common in Colorado(I believe you down in there)?
Like Firefly said, I pretty much only see these at newer gas stations (like the Costco gas station near my house, which is where I fuel up most of the time). I have no clue what the requirements are though.
The gas station near me burn down in 2011. They had no sprinklers and they now have them after it was rebuilt.
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Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:14 am

Lambda wrote: Sprinklers at a gas station? Do you mean a self-contained suppression system? I've never seen a wet pipe sprinkler system for a stand alone gas station.
I think that's what they mean. Water would make it worse, rather than better...
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