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Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:48 pm

A pull station was put in one of the auditorium enterences, along with a smoke detector replacing one of the TrueAlarms. Ill update if anything else changes, because stuff like this usually indicates a lot of that device comes the next day
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Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:54 am

Currently, where I'm attending a training/internship there's not too much... Aside a very unusual and rare Legrand system from the 90's-early 2000's (the building was built circa 2005):

Notification Appliances: Legrand 40643 (presumed, I can't really make out the tags on them) autonomous sounders (hardwired to 240VAC, they're like a self-contained FACP with one zone, these autonomous sounders are very uncommon, in that system they're wired to a master panel which handles the fire doors and MCPs)

Manual Call points/Pull stations: Legrand MCPs (model # unknown)

Panel: Legrand 40644 2B-Class FACP (very uncommon, these are very scarce unfortunately, I've gotta hurry up and see if I can salvage it before it gets gutted :()
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Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:49 pm

So the door to the basement at school was open...
Here's what I found.
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a Notifier BGX-101L, as I was expecting,

and....


wait for it...
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a Wheelock MT-LSM!
This was quite a surprise, considering that the other office tenants have classic SpectrAlerts.
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Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:27 am

So the basement of your school has tenants in the offices?
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So the basement of your school has tenants in the offices?
No, I was talking about the 3rd and 4th floor office tenants.
The basement is basically just mechanical rooms.
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Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:23 am

I always thought it was cool that schools could have tenants in them. I wonder if in a fire drill they have to evacuate also.
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I always thought it was cool that schools could have tenants in them. I wonder if in a fire drill they have to evacuate also.
It’s an office building, my school is a tenant.
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Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:05 pm

Well either way, it does sound pretty awesome.
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Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:46 pm

First off, the bell tone for my school changed for some reason. Originally it was three drawn out low tones (kind of like “bings”). Now its similar except the bells are quieter, the tone is lower pitched and there’s a small interval between bings. Everyone including me was surprised because its sort of a weird move by our school. I thought the bell tones came out of the new speaker/strobes because I was in the new building. Unfortunately that was not the case; they came out of the general speakers. Maybe the tone is new since it will be used via the speaker/strobes later.
Also according to my english teacher who responded to a students’ confusion, the school was testing all kinds of different tones, huh.

Not very much was done with the fire alarm systems afaik EXCEPT all the dust covers for smoke detectors are off. The TrueAlarms are still intact but may be removed later. Strangely some detectors in the OTHER building now have dust covers, except theyve been there before and aren’t a new device (or are they).

And those are all the changes on the school over break. I was expecting the entire system to be finished but there were other plans....
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Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:39 pm

Do you know exactly when the TrueAlarms are gonna be removed?
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:03 am

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Do you know exactly when the TrueAlarms are gonna be removed?
No I do not. Probably sometime next week.
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:33 pm

Ok after travelling between buildings I noticed the Simplex 4002 panel had been fully replaced with a Siemens FireFinder, sooooooooooo I’m assuming the Simplex alarms are completely dormant.

I’m assuming thats what they did over break...
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:17 pm

So they are still up then just most likely dormant?
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:21 pm

It has been a while, but last month, my work site team relocated to another building in the City of Detroit. I'm not going to mention where this building is, but the system that is set up here is really interesting. According to archived satellite imagery, the building dates back to the 1950s.

Annunciator/panel:
>The panel is a Firecom panel! There has been a lot of discussion recently with Firecom and their systems installed at the WTC complex. Interestingly enough, Detroit's St. Regis Hotel also has a Firecom system in place, according to Firecom's webpage. I don't know what the model of the panel is, because it's most likely a discontinued model that I couldn't find anywhere else online. What I do know is that the panel is addressable with voice-evacuation capabilities. According to building evacuation plans, the signal coding is temporal (code-3), but I don't believe any recorded voice messages play over the NAs.

Detectors:
>The ground floor is the only floor I've noticed with Firecom F900-series photoelectric detectors installed. I'm guessing this is because the ground floor was renovated/remodeled over the past several years.
>Most of the building consists of System Sensor 1400-series ionization detectors and BRK 2800-series photoelectric detectors from an older system.
>Some of the older detectors were replaced with System Sensor i3-series photoelectric detectors.
>The elevator lobby areas contain Gentex 9003-series photoelectric detectors.

Pull stations:
>The current system still uses Kidde B5 pull stations carried over from the old one!
>The main lobby has a Firecom F900-940 pull station, which is actually a rebranded Sigcom t-bar. This was most likely installed as part of an earlier renovation/remodeling project.

Notification appliances:
>The older system consisted of Wheelock ET-1010-WS-24 speaker/strobes, of which there are several still in use. Most of these are mounted on flush plates.
>The newer system uses Wheelock E70 speaker/strobes and ceiling-mount Wheelock RSS strobes. These are also rebranded under the "Firecom, Inc." moniker.
>An entrance outside the building has a weatherproof Wheelock NS horn/strobe installed. This might be used a sprinkler alarm.
>The mailroom area has a gray, ceiling-mount, 2nd-gen Edwards Integrity horn/strobe installed, and this particular device uses a yellow strobe! I don't know what its purpose is for, though.
>The receiving dock has a 4-5" signaling bell with an exposed trapezoid-shaped housing installed. I don't know the make nor model of the bell.
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:44 pm

THEY ARE TAKING OUT EVERY SINGLE ALARM. THIS IS NOT A DRILL. REPEAT THIS IS NOT A DRILL.

I’m at school waiting to be picked up from school and I SEE the workers taking the fire alarms out of the backbox and putting the covers on. Holy ****.
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