Are buildings with fire alarm systems not required to have pull stations if they are fully sprinklered?

Sprinklered buildings are required to have at least 1 pull station.
This pull station is typically near the riser room. It’s purpose is so the sprinkler guy can activate the alarm if needed (while his system is down).

Why would his station be done? Don’t sprinklers activate when the glass breaks or the soldier melts due to the extreme heat?

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Why would his station be done? Don’t sprinklers activate when the glass breaks or the soldier melts due to the extreme heat?

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testing, maintenance, expansion… sprinkler system is off, pull station is needed to activate fire alarm by the sprinkler guy if something happens.

Oh yeah. You know what? Now that you think of it, that does make sense. Nevermind.

Where I live, unless your building is one large open room such as a grocery store, you are required to have smoke detectors throughout along with sprinklers. Grocery stores will have smoke detectors in any back room that can’t be seen at all times or in bathrooms. If the building is fully outfitted with smoke detectors and sprinklers, all but one pull station is allowed to be eliminated. That one pull station however is required to be accessible to the public, normally it is installed in a vestibule by the main entrance. This one pull station essentially gives one approved door that is in a public space a manual alarm box. As far as alarms are concerned, all spaces are required to be outfitted with voice EVAC as of modern code. The rules about public and private areas having strobe differences in placement had also been scratched. All strobes are required to be placed in every part of the building with no blind spots and each device must illuminate the space of at least 75 candelas too which is a new thing. Audio clarity is also required which means more remote speakers are needed.

I was in a beverage store in NY and it had two old rusty Edwards 270SPOs. For notification appliances, it had two System Sensor classics that were falling off of the wall. One of the pulls was located at the entrance to the store, and the other one was at the emergency exit in the back. The emergency exit was also blocked by a bunch of stuff. The fire extinguishers were very small and clearly hadn’t been inspected in years. There was no smoke detectors except for some Kidde residential smoke alarms that were dusty, and the battery doors were open on them. There was no exit signs or emergency lighting in the entire building. I’m surprised this is not been reported.

In my area, the system needs to be addressable, have smoke detectors, and pull stations even if the building is a fully sprinkler protected interior. However pull stations only need to be located by exterior exits.