Micro Center: Dallas, TX
Notification Appliances
Annunciator
Siemens are now using LED strobes too?
Yep: they also released their own line of LED appliances not that long ago as well!
A rest stop with truealert es devices huh? Seems a bit overkill considering an es panel would be required. Still interesting nonetheless.
You’re certainly not kidding, but from what I’ve read what do you expect from JCI-controlled Simplex nowdays?
Simplex & Gentex signals in the same system? That’s sure new!
They have been using them for quite a while. They started off with the SL- series (seen in the post) which were rebranded Wheelock LED3 devices. Then, they moved to the SL2 devices, which are rebranded Eluxa devices. Recently, they have released the ACEND series, which are not rebranded Wheelock devices. I would say that the SL2 devices are somewhat rare compared to the others because they were only out for a short time between when Wheelock stopped making the SL devices for Siemens and when the ACEND devices were released. My school which just opened up in August has almost all SL devices. There are only a few SL2 remote strobes that were installed in the band area (the last area to be finished).
Not necessarily, the foundation series panels are only compatible with conventional notification appliances iirc.
I mean that of course JCI would go overboard with ES-series devices on a little tiny system like that: according to a tech on Reddit they charge ridiculous service fees even for such small systems.
Yeah. I’ve seen ES devices on many small Simplex systems in my area, but almost all of the Autocal systems have conventional notion. This is because the Autocall installer in my area is a reasonable local company, while JCI is a terrible corporate.
For example, the only Autocall system in my area that I know of with ES devices is my state’s 14 floor capitol building. Meanwhile, there are several small elementary schools and stores in my area that have Simplex systems with ES notification.
I’ve seen this before. The building I was in had like 4 or 5 rooms and one hallway and they went full on addressable. A couple conventional devices could’ve got the job done as originally there were just two Adaptahorns
Really? Huh, well that’s nice at least (what your local Autocall dealer does that is: also glad I have someone to back up what I said). I guess despite Autocall now being under the same umbrella as Simplex that they still have some autonomy if your local dealer can do that huh?
“the Autocall installer in my area is a reasonable local company, while JCI is a terrible corporate” Couldn’t have said it better myself: seems like local & family-run companies are often better than corporations!
Yeah I’m honestly not surprised at all.
Don’t seem to see too many systems with horizontal-strobe MTs! (probably because everyone would always go with the simplier single-tone AS instead: don’t really need a multi-tone device like the MT for that kind of application)
For some reason, all of the medical facilities in my area that have Simplex systems use MT’s (mostly the newer ones like this).
I have never seen any of them in person either. They even had them inside the bathrooms.
St. John’s Lutheran Church and School (Winston-Salem, NC)
Unfortunately, I didn’t take pictures when I was there.
Main Building:
Panel: Hybrid Simplex 4007es (Johnson Controls branding) w/ 4606-9205 remote annunciator by the entrance
Pulls:
Simplex 4251-XX (from an older system)
Simplex 4099-90XX
Smokes:
Simplex 4098-9714
Notification:
Simplex 4906-91XX horn/strobes
Simplex 4906-9101 remote strobes
My favorite! 1x Edwards 5520D in the hallway (broken? plays a creepy inconsistent hi-lo tone. It’s only settings are Horn and Siren.)
Outdoors:
Weatherproof Simplex 4906-9131
1x Atlas A2WRF loudspeaker playing a 2400hz continuous tone
Gym (separate building):
Panel: Fire Lite MS9200UDLS with ANN-80 at the entrance
Pulls: BG-12LXs
Smokes: I didn’t see any
Notification: Wheelock Exceeders and and weatherproof Advances outside.
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Inspire Family Fellowship- Bismarck, ND
I was here today for one of my school’s band ensemble events. I thought the FA system was quite interesting so I wanted to share it.
Panel- Probably a Potter AFC-100 with an EVAX panel or an AFC 1000-V (would be quite excessive).
Notification Appliances- Mostly what appear to be EST integrity horn/strobes. They also have EST integrity remote strobes, at least one Potter S-24 replacement. For the voice evac parts they have Potter SPKSTR-24CLP ceiling mount speaker/strobes that I saw and probably some SPKSTR-24WLP wall mount speaker/strobes somewhere.
Pull Stations- Edwards 270-SPO pull stations (some are very old) and unbranded chevron pull stations (also look very old).
Smoke Detectors- System Sensor 2100 detectors, at least one i3, and Potter PAD200-PD addressable detectors in at least one small renovated part that I saw.
Based on what I saw, I’m assuming that this building was originally built in the mid 1900’s with an AC system with the chevron pull stations. At some point not long after, the building was added onto but got Edwards devices including the 270-SPO’s. In the 90’s, the system was upgraded to a newer EST system. Recently, the EST panel and some devices were replaced by my local Potter dealer.
This type of system with older EST devices on other brand’s modern panels is actually quite common in my area. This is because EST was pretty common in my area in the 80’s-90’s but isn’t all that common anymore.
In my area, Potter seems to have filled the part of the market that Fire-Lite (or maybe Silent Knight) fills in most areas.
First Merchants Bank Expo Center (Monroe Township, MI)
Annunciators/panel:
<One Notifier N-ANN-80 in a black paint color. I don’t know what the actual panel is (not in a public area), but presumably, it is an older Notifier Inspire or ONYX-series model with Digital Voice Command.
Detectors:
<At least one Notifier FSP-851 photoelectric unit connected to the N-ANN-80
Pull stations:
<Notifier NBG-12LX units throughout the building
Notification appliances:
<System Sensor SP2R1224MC speaker/strobes throughout the building
The next two buildings are both owned by the Diocese of Bridgeport, and are located in Bridgeport, Connecticut.
The Cathedral Parish of Saint Augustine, Bridgeport, CT:
This is the seat of the Bishop of Bridgeport, and it is the “Mother Church of Bridgeport.” It was built in the late 1800s, and features beautiful stained glass windows, as well as an Allen pipe organ and Steinway Model B grand piano in the Choir Loft.
The panels are a Fire-Lite ES-50X and a Fire-Lite 25/50X (Sadly, I have no photos, as I attended Mass here this morning.)
The pull stations are BG-12LXes (some with the Fire-Lite Alarms by Honeywell text, but some just said ‘Fire-Lite.’) I believe these replaced SpectrAlert Classic speaker/strobes at one point.
The notification appliances are LED L-Series horn/strobes.
The detectors are a mix of older System Sensor low-profile detectors, as well as SD365s.
Kolbe Cathedral Preparatory School, Bridgeport, CT:
This high school, also overseen by the Diocese of Bridgeport, is right next door to the church, and it was built in the 1960s, but gained its system in the 1980s. Many of the devices have now either been replaced, but some original ones remain!
The panel is unknown- possibly a Simplex 4006 or similar, based on the devices.
The pulls are 4251-20s:
The N/As are mainly 2901-9838 horns on 2903 light plates:
One instance in the gymnasium has a SpectrAlert Classic slapped lazily onto the strobe plate!
The detectors are i3s, formerly replacing old Simplex TrueAlarms.