Fire Alarms in Buildings (2.0)

i’m not from this area, but I think @MASS2475ADA will probably be getting that

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I can crash too. But hopefully MASS gets it and ragebait 4903 with it…

Also, he doesn’t like to be pinged smh

HOLY SHOOT!

The Cincinnati Area has a ton of Rare Devices that are still in service. Surprisingly. But an AV-34!??! GEEZ! Hopefully I could someday save it.

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Juz the Jeez, Juz the Jeez, Juz the Juz the Juz the Jeez!

Man I wish I lived there, oh wait east TN is home of rarest alarms apparently I forgot.

Bruh. Well at least Cincinnati is home of rare Autocall Fire Alarms and rare Honeywell Rebranded devices.

Interestingly, they had a few offices in the States:

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That many huh? Wow…(honestly surprising for a company that was only in business for a few decades!)

I invaded your territory for a cousin’s wedding. lol

you may be getting those AV-34s if the property owner of “Atrium One” does a system upgrade

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The building in which my doctor’s office is located has a neat Simplex system with a mix of old and new components; the panel was upgraded about two years ago, but most devices were kept in place. The original panel was apparently a 2001 with a 16000-9015 annunciator:

The new panel is a 4100ES with a TSD annunciator:

The pull stations are older bilingual T-bars (the one in the lobby is a break-glass model):


The signals are primarily 2901-9711 bells, although there are a few other models that are either replacing 9711s or that were added later on (I spotted a 2901-9720, a Potter PDC-624, and an Edwards 439D-6AWC):

The original smoke detectors were 12098-9505s (ionization “wiffle ball” models), while the new ones are TrueAlarms:

I also recently visited another building—a beautiful former elementary school that was built around 1920—that has a 1970s Edwards system. I seldom come across fully intact systems from this era, so this one was a nice treat. I saw a 456CEFHT annunciator in the main entrance (most likely for a 6500 panel):

The pull stations are older 270-SPOs with bilingual lettering:

The signals are 885D Adaptahorns:

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Three Cedars Farm (Salem Township, MI) - This report focuses on the Old Country Store barn and other portions of the property.




There is no centralized fire alarm system, but the property does have at least two Gamewell call boxes scattered among dozens of antiques and historical signage. Look to your right in the third picture; there is a bell with a manufacturer that I and likely nobody else on here have heard of before. Per the nameplate, it is Reynolds Spring Company of Jackson, MI, which manufactured assorted consumer, commercial, and industrial plastics according to one news article. Not pictured is one modern smoke detector (a Kidde/FireX ionization unit with a surface battery compartment) inside the barn itself, which is now a general store.

I could not find any other information about this bell anywhere, nor could I get a model number for it. This may be the rarest piece of alarm-related equipment I’ve ever seen in the wild given its obscurity. Presumably, this was a telephone ringer bell back when this barn was used for farming-related services.

3 Brothers Family Restaurant (Plymouth Township, MI - built in 1975)

Annunciators/panel:
<Unknown, presumably ADT or FOS

Detectors:
<System Sensor i3-series photoelectric units
<At least one Apollo Series 65A(?) photoelectric unit in the dining area

Pull stations:
<ADT 5060-S units

Notification appliances:
The system, when originally installed, consisted of at least two non-ADA FOS 6120 horn/strobes. Since then, at least one of these units (in the entry foyer) was replaced by a System Sensor L-series horn/strobe.

Antiques & Vintage on the Boulevard (Tecumseh, MI)
This business still has at least two System Sensor 2400-series photoelectric units hanging around.

Antiques at the Next Level (Tecumseh Township, MI)
This place does not have a fire alarm system, but it does feature a rare First Alert FA500KP (‘Professional’ series) keypad next to the main entrance, which is part of a security system that still has vintage cameras and motion sensors in active use.

some life safety equipment found at Hale Farm & Village (a living history museum operated by the Western Reserve Historical Society north of Akron in unincorporated Bath Township, established in 1958; I live less than 10 minutes away.

has anyone heard of “World Electronics, Inc.?” (pull station in #1 with the SpectrAlert) found in the 1832 Hale House (the museum’s centerpiece)

The visitor center has the same system as the Catholic church by my house: Simplex 4002 (upgraded to a 4007ES) with 4251-30s and 4903-9101 strobe plates with 9838 horns, a lone TrueAlert was found over by the restrooms. this is the newest building in the complex, being constructed in the late 80s.



Neat system. One thing of note is that little circular device next to that (non-glowing from the looks of it!) exit sign: that’s an Ademco 500-series heat detector (no idea what it’s doing mounted there though, especially if there’s no other evidence that an Ademco security system (which 500-series heat detectors were typically used with) was once installed in that building).

I have: they were a maker of wireless fire alarm systems who were founded in 1979 & who went out of business sometime in or after 2007 (not sure why exactly they did but yeah).

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That pull is a Notifier pull station rebranded by them.

I have one of those pull stations. Its model number is 302.

I wonder if World Electronics is a predecessor of CWSI. Both companies were based in Sunrise, FL, and CWSI’s former domain name (wirelessfirealarm.com) was used by a World Electronics dealer until around 2009.




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Oh? Hmm…CWSI’s founding date of 1983 & the fact that that website mentions both companies at the same time kinda throws a wrench into that though.

Why does it use a 9 volt battery?

Because it’s a wireless pull station: it has to get the power for its circuitry (including the transmitter that connects it to the main panel) from somewhere.

That’s quite confusing! In early 2007, the website stated that CWSI was coming “late fall 2007”, and another page states that CWSI was founded in 2004; while this doesn’t confirm anything about its founding year, the website of Colorado Wireless Fire Alarm Systems, which originally owned the domain name, only goes back to 2004, so I wonder if this is the company being referred to here.

Moreover, I noticed that the presidents of WE and CWSI have the same last name (Philip R. Barrett for WE, Scott Barrett for CWSI) and that the companies’ addresses were adjacent units in the same building (10794 NW 53rd St. for WE, 10798 NW 53rd St. for CWSI). It’s hard to trace a clear history, but these facts suggest that there is likely a relation between the two, especially considering that WE seems to have disappeared right around the time CWSI products were hitting the market.

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Walmart Supercenter (Elizabethtown, KY)

Pulls; Radionics T-Bars
Panel: Bosch Annouicator
Alarms: White Celling Mount Spectralert L-Series Horn Strobes

Lowe’s Home Improvement (Elizabethtown, Kentucky)

Panel: Unknown Panel
Pulls: Fire Lite BG-12s
Alarms: Mix Of Red Wall Mount Spectralert Advance And L-Series

Target (Elizabethtown, Kentucky)

Panel: Ann-80
Pulls: Fire Lite BG-12
Alarms: White Celling Mount Spectralert Advance Horn Strobe

Goodwill: (Elizabethtown, Kentucky)

Pulls: Potter Rebranded RSG T-Bars
Alarms: Gentex Commander 3s