Fire Alarms in Buildings (2.0)






Potter PFC4064, Totally forgot about this system. Its in a eye doctors building in Marlton NJ.

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Surprisingly, Potter is quite a bit more popular that Fire-Lite in my area, which is by far the most popular Honeywell brand in my area. They actually make up around 12% of the systems in my area, while all of the Honeywell brands combined only make up around 16%. If you add Harrington Signal to the mix, Potter/Harrington make up around 14%. The Honeywell brands are also continuing to decrease in popularity in my area.

Yeah Potter is kinda like Linux.

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The main branch of my local library has one of the last remaining Siemens MXL systems I know of in my area. The building was completed in 1973, and the current system appears to have been installed in 2005.

An RCC-3 annunciator is mounted at the main entrance:

The initiating devices are Siemens FP-11 smoke/heat detectors, HFPT-11 heat detectors and MSI-51BD pull stations. Interestingly, some areas feature FP-11s mounted within a few feet of HFPT-11s:

The signals are CU-MHT horn/strobes (I also spotted an MTH-MC-W-B that appears to be a replacement device). White units are mounted on the ceilings, while red units are used on the walls:

The main lobby also features an interesting old annunciator. I’m not completely sure of its function, but it looks like it may have been a door alarm annunciator rather than a fire alarm annunciator:

This system’s days are numbered: a massive new library building is under construction and is slated to open next year. Once the new building opens, the current building will be sold off. I’m eager to see what the new facility will have.

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Nice! I have to say though, I sure hope somebody ends up saving most if not all of that system given it not only has an MXL controlling it (which of course are very rare to find these days) but also because of those even-rarer bilingual U-series horn/strobes!

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I really hope that new facility sticks with Siemens, or moves to something like Edwards or Autocall. Honeywell quality control is on a downwards spiral, and Simplex is a bad choice, as they keep you locked into their services, and their services that they make you use don’t have a very good track record.

Also, I’m sure everyone would agree that it would be much appreciated if you could do something to save these things. At the very least, all of those MXL components are worth quite a bit of money as spare parts. However, I do know from experience that it’s not always a good situation or a possibility to save them, so I won’t blame you if you can’t.

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Nice baby vents. I think it’s interesting they come in bilingual.

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Harbor Freight, Commerce GA

This is a brand new construction.

Panel: Firelite Something. couldn’t tell the model from where I was standing.

Notification Devices: System Sensor ceiling mount L series LED’s (Red)

Pulls: Firelite BG-12LX’s

Pictures

It’s prolly an ES-50X FACP

Is that your nickname for those particular U-series horn/strobes? (& if so why?)

Is it just me or did someone drill holes in that horn/strobe for whatever reason? (or at least a hole besides the ones used for testing continuity & the one for the mounting screw)

So I saw an interesting Fire-Lite system at a Ross on SE Military in San Antonio. The annunciator is an ANN-80, with BG-12 pulls. Now here’s the interesting part, the NAs are EST Genesis ceiling mounts. More interesting, one of the pull stations is a EST 278. I couldn’t get a clear picture of the ANN-80 because there was stuff in the way.

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I’m guessing that the system replaced an older EST system (maybe something like a QuickStart QSC?). It’s cool that they reused the old devices. I’m thinking it might be an MS-5/10UD, but it could also be an addressable system with monitor modules. I’ve seen quite a bit of older EST systems in my area having their panels replaced with a more modern one from Fire-Lite, Siemens, or Potter, but they reuse the rest of the system. Much more recently, I’ve also seen a Fire-Lite conventional system from the early 2000s get replaced by a Potter PFC-4064, but they also reused all of the old devices.

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I’m glad they went with a Fire-Lite system vs any other Honeywell system. Although they are meant to be the lowest-end Honeywell brand, they seem to be the least problematic. I still think a Potter system would have been better, but this isn’t bad.

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I just got back from a system at a VCS store they had a Fire-Lite system with Wheelock NAs!

Yeah, reusing the old devicicals means that they’ll automatically sync because they’re enhanced strobes.

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This photo shows what I believe is an old Simplex pull station, and likely a 4050 horn. This photo was posted online by my school district, and this photo was taken at a local art school that a club was having an event at. This building is on a college campus, and is one of the campus’s original buildings. They all had similar systems to this. Before they were all upgraded in the 90s and 2000s, this building was bought by a private company, so the system did not get replaced. This system is still protecting this building and it’s occupants , and I don’t see it going anywhere anytime soon, but I’ll definitely try to do something about it if it does get replaced.

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Old Edwards 2280 still in service, and without a dialer lol, Pulls are Edwards 275-C111s,
Bells are 439D-10AWCs, and the smokes are Edwards 6720’s series

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Bro :sob: I KEEP FINDING YOU EVERYWHERE BROO if you know who i am, im blitz

the bell and the horn look very worn down..

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I couldn’t help but notice that Simplex strobe on that Speaker. I lmao when I saw this image. Those Red Ceiling strobes are so hard to come across by. I wonder if it is like 15CD (4904–9162), 30CD (4904–9163) or 110CD (4904–9164). I know this post was posted under a month ago.

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