This morning, as K-O the Kangaroo of the Brockton Rox I visited Brockton’s Trinity Catholic Academy campuses! The lower campus school (pre-K to grade 3) was originally built in 1952 and added onto in 1960, and is actually where my mother went for elementary school back in the 60s! It has an EST-3 system installed during substantial renovations in 2007, with Genesis horn/strobes, SIGA-PS smoke detectors and SIGA-278 dual-action pull stations, along with fire sprinklers throughout the building. On the back, there’s what looks like an old 6” Edwards Adaptabel with a protective guard on it, obviously abandoned during the renovations.
The other Trinity Catholic upper campus was also built in the 1950s and renovated in 2007 with the same kind of EST fire alarm setup. But in the gymatorium, there’s a System Sensor MA/SS (pre-ADA) horn/strobe an an Edwards 4” Adaptabel that are both abandoned. I’m surprised they weren’t removed with the rest of the old school bells and fire alarm devices during said renovations (when they even installed an elevator!)
Surprised both schools didn’t go with voice-evacuation as long as they were going to do such substantial upgrades and renovations.
Not sure I know what you mean by “2 es signs”, but yeah, that missing lock is definitely a security risk, as it means anyone could get into the panel by simply swinging the door open (no clue how that lock could have gone missing to begin with, but it ought to be replaced as soon as possible to prevent unauthorized access).
Oh yeah, neat!
There’s a chance that the airport’s PA system acts as such (though I’m not sure I’ve seen any that are confirmed to have such a setup).
I know that the Denver International Airport upgraded from an older Notifier(?) system with Wheelock horn/strobes, to a Simplex 4100ES voice system in all terminals around 10-15 years ago. Most of the older Wheelock devices got replaced with “ALERT” marked TrueAlertES remote strobes, but one of the terminals got Wheelock Exceder remote strobes instead. These devices directly replaced the old horn/strobes, and there are no horns or speakers visible anywhere, so I’m guessing that they just fed voice evac through the PA system there too. I’m guessing that the old devices were two-wire devices, and this was the best way to upgrade to a new voice system without doing any re-wiring.
An installation from 2022 with Integrity devices is certainly unexpected. What I find particularly striking is that this system manages to mix three different generations of devices; I’ve seen a handful of new installations in my area that mix two generations of devices (Advance and L-Series, for instance), but three generations in a new building is impressive.
I know I’ve seen some Siemens systems in my area with Z-, SL-, and SL2- series devices, or with SL-, SL2, and ACEND devices (like my school), but that’s a little less surprising, as Siemens had four generation changes within just a few years.
lol. I’ve see fire alarms caused by fog machines before, but you’d think a space that’s designed for performances would be designed with a fog machine in mind. Another option would be fast-dissipating, or low-lying fog, so that it can’t reach the smoke detectors. I know they use fast-dissipating fog in my school’s gym, so that the fog doesn’t stay around for too long, and so that it is gone before it can reach the smoke detectors.
I work on the tech crew for my high school theater. During runs with haze, we make sure to keep all of the doors closed as well the ones into the hallway. The unfortunate part is that there is a smoke detector right in the shop connected to the stage. We have to make sure to keep that door closed, or it will set off the fire alarm, which has happened before.
It’s very difficult to tell, but it looks like an Eaton Eluxa speaker/strobe to me. Although I’ve said before that this system is probably going to just get a 4100ES upgrade, I’ve since found out that this school district also uses many Honeywell systems in new buildings. It could be an addition/upgrade to the existing Simplex system, a change to Autocall, or to a Honeywell brand. Only time will tell.
Every door out of the auditorium in my school also has at least one smoke detector outside of it (Siemens OP921). I guess if they had issues, they could call the Siemens dealer in my area to switch them out for Siemens OOH941 multi-criteria smoke/heat detectors that use a combination of a photoelectric smoke sensor, heat sensor, and CO sensor to determine whether or not there is a real fire (similar to the old FP-11 and HFP-11 devices, but these are still modern, UL listed devices that aren’t too ignorant of real fires). I’m sure other brands have similar products. I know for sure Edwards does. Siemens and Edwards have been having a “who can build the most false alarm-resistant detector” battle for decades at this point.