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Philadelphia Constitution Center, one was from the welcome center, and the other one was in the main building itself, 4120 Network, and a 4100ES in the main building, sorry if i couldnt get alot of photos since it was a school field trip, and i couldnt be embarrased. heres a funny picture.
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Why is the fire lettering gone?
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There is a model without lettering.
Orlando Airport also has MTs set to Hi/Lo for door alarms and some blue Integrity s here and there for some reason.
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Baker Hunt (Covington, KY)
Alarms: Red Wall Mount Spectralert Classic Horn Strobes, There Are Also Red Classic Horns In 2 Areas
Pulls: ADT BG-12
EnterTRAINment Junction (West Chester, OH)
Alarms: Red Spectralert Advance Horn Strobes, Walls On Small Areas, And Celling On Big Areas
Pulls: Tyco BG-12s And A Few ADT BG-12s
Because Someone Accidentally Messed Up The Lettering
That’s pretty amazing to catch a strobe flash on a still photo.
This is at a Connecticut Middle School, with a NFS2-640! It looks like it used to be some gamewell system, most likely a 7200 with voice, since the gym has e70’s, its intresting how the bathroom has mini-horns.
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That pull station should really be removed if it’s not in service. A nun-functional pull station could cause confusion, and could be very dangerous.
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Yeah, BUT this is in a non-student area, and almost NOBODY goes in the hallway, this is far from the classrooms
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Arts Academy in the Woods (Fraser, MI) - This was one of the more interesting places I visited (for an inaugural rummage sale), and also has one of the more unusual systems, too. Originally built as a grade school for Fraser Public Schools, this building later became a satellite campus for Macomb Community College (per an old labelscar on Caroline Street) before becoming an arts school since at least 2008. It was likely expanded at some point, too.
My visit was limited to the school’s cafetorium/gymnasium, but I found out about some of the other devices per photos of this school’s Google Maps entry and Facebook page.
Annunciators/panel:
<At minimum, a National Time & Signal Corporation (Natsco) 902 series annunciator tied into a vintage Honeywell annunciator with red trim. As evidenced by the devices below, there should be at least a Natsco 7000 series, a Natsco 2000 series, or a Honeywell panel still in use!
Detectors:
<At least one modern, but older Honeywell photoelectric detector (model unknown) down one hallway.
Pull stations:
<Natsco 641 units throughout the building. It isn’t known what the original pull stations were, but my guess is the ‘LOCAL ALARM’ variants of Honeywell’s S464A series, and/or Natsco Type 3500N units.
Notification appliances:
<Currently, Wheelock 34T-24 horns throughout the building, though some are Natsco rebrands. Previously, it would appear some parts of the school used Simplex 4037-1 horns or Honeywell’s rebranded version of them. Additionally, some Facebook photos show a Natsco P804 trouble bell in one hallway, and possibly evidence of Natsco 311 horns and at least one Natsco P806R or 411R unit once being used in other parts!
Other:
<Simplex STR 4017-60 class change bells in some parts of the building.
<Some Facebook photos show black Natsco P806 bells–some of the earliest P806 units Natsco produced!
<Outside, there are two Natsco recessed grilles, most likely containing Natsco P806 units.
Russell Industrial Center (Detroit, MI) - Originally built in 1915 as an auto body manufacturing plant, this complex was later converted to an arts and retail center. I could not find any pull stations, detectors, or annunciators/panels, but I did find a mix of old and new devices being used.
Notification appliances:
<System Sensor PC2R series horn/strobes or speaker/strobes throughout the complex.
<System Sensor P2RK horn/strobes outside.
<Black Grinnell and silver Viking sprinkler bells throughout the complex, which are also original units.
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O’Charleys (Elizabethtown, KY)
Wheelock MT-24-LSM Horn Strobes Thought The Dining Area
Wheelock RSS Strobes In The Restrooms
1 Fire Lite ANN-80 Annunciator In The Entrance
The Pulls Are Fire Lite BG-12LX
Sky’s The Limit (Elizabethtown, KY)
System Sensor Red Spectralert L-Series Wall Mount Horn Strobes In The Trampoline Park, And Party Rooms
Red Spectralert L-Series Wall Mount Strobes In The Restrooms
Red L-Series Ceiling Mount Horn Strobes In The Sky’s Cafe Area
1 Bosch Annunciator In The Entrance
2 Fire Lite BG-12LX’s In The Back Of The Trampoline Park
The Entrance And Sky’s Cafe Had Bosch Rebranded Sigcom T-Bars (Without The Push)
Hardin County Animal Care And Control (Elizabethtown, KY)
Spectralert Advance (Red, Wall Mount) Horn Strobes
DMP Rebranded Sigcom T-Bars
Bluegrass Sportsplex (Elizabethtown, KY)
Honeywell Annunciator At The Entrance
This Is Weird………… But They Had Red L-Series Celling Mount Horn Strobes But They Were Also On The Wall
The Pulls Were Honeywell BG-12LX’s
Menard’s (Elizabethtown, KY)
2 Fire Lite ANN-80’s At 2 Entrance
The Pulls Are Fire Lite BG-12LX’s
White Ceiling Mount L-Series Horn Strobes Throught The Area
Red Wall Mount L-Series Strobes In The Restrooms
Hobby Lobby (Elizabethtown, KY)
There Are White Ceiling Mount Spectralert Advance Horn Strobes
But There Were No Pulls, But I Don’t Know If There Was A Annunciator
Sam’s Club (Elizabethtown, KY)
There Was 1 Bosch Rebranded Sigcom T-BAR (With The Push) On The Entrance
There Were 3 Bosch Annunciators (2 At The Entrance, And 1 At The Pharmacy)
White Wheelock E90’s Throught The Store, Bakery, Cafe, And Auto Center
Red Weatherproof Wheelock E70’s Outside, THEY ALSO HAD THESE IN THE RESTROOMS
Kroger (But The One On Towne Drive, Elizabethtown, KY)
Only I Saw 1 Red L-Series Wall Mount Horn Strobe At A Entrance
Elizabethtown Peddlers Mall (Elizabethtown, KY)
Only I Saw 1 Bell And A Sprinkler Outside
Yeah! (not to mention the system being in alarm, as the BG-12 below that SpectrAlert is visibly activated as well!)
Yeah, as well as how that system is literally both voice & non-voice! (at least if that first NA is a speaker/strobe) Those Gamewell-branded Wheelock devices are rare too!
Wow…you oughta try to get that & anything else that’s in that bulding out if you can! (for preservation of course)
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Unfortunately, i am far from the school, so its unlikely if i would go to the school again.
That’s probably because the gym is considered an assembly occupancy while the rest of the school is considered educational. Large assembly occupancies have required voice evac for decades, but educational occupancies only began requiring it more recently. There was a similar situation in How do I find out what panel my school uses? - #12 by Mhgk
It is. The ES series was a series of horn strobes that looked like speaker strobes, but I believe those were discontinued by the time Wheelock switched to UL 1971 strobes and replaced with the MT.
It’s a reference to You've seen funny names for animals... - #69 by Mhgk
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Local pharmacy near me:
Originally, the location most likely had a Merlin Gerin type 4 system (basically a single-loop, panel with basic supervision, you open the detection loop, the panel goes in alarm) albeit a battery-powered one (with an integrated call point), although my memory is sort of fuzzy on that.
Interestingly, this location also has a very old security system, though what kind, I cannot tell, I know there is a Detection Systems branded PIR detector and an ESL 4x9-series (most likely a 449 w/ heat detection) detector. The security system is most likely a DSC system of some kind as those were fairly popular in my area.
That original fire alarm “system” (just a box with a sounder and a call point running off a 9V battery) has gone between 2018 and 2012 (the 2012 streetview of the location in question still show the old interior, then after this there’s no streetview past 2018) following renovations.
Now, for the current system:
- Panel: Most likely a Nugelec Type 4 “Planète”
- Call points: Nugelec MDS3000, only spotted one near the entrance, there may be more in the staff areas
- Sounders: Nugelec DSB3000
Nothing too unusual.
Now for the security system, as far as I can tell it’s abandonned in place, there was a outdoor siren on the building but it’s been gone for about a decade now. If they do take down the remnants of the security system, I’ll ask around (some of the staff here are friends of my family) and see if I can salvage it. Security systems aren’t my cup of tea but hey, I won’t say no to free devices.
City hall:
Same scenario, they had a hardwired (220V) Merlin Gerin system (type 4), although now that’s gone and replaced with a Nugelec Planète type 4 panel. Interestingly they kept the original KAC call points with the Merlin Gerin-branded “break glass” plates. What’s even more amusing is that in my collection, I have the EXACT same panel that they originally had (!)
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I’ve always been interested in the older European systems from the 70s and earlier. What sort of audible signals were common in France? Do you know more about other areas of Europe?