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wiley209
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Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:22 pm

Fire Alarm Fan wrote:Look to the strobe side of the terminal block. There should be 3 flat pins sticking up from the PCB, labeled WP1 - WP3. Notice that WP2 has a + by it, and WP3 has the -. Hook the wires from the VA4 to those.

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OK, I did that, and it does let me run the strobe off the horn if the wires are connected to the "STROBE"-labeled terminals. But not the "AUDIBLE"-labeled ones. Guess if I want to do 4-wire operation I'd need quite a bit of 9-volt batteries (these seem to work for me when I test them.)


But besides that, I got some more new alarm devices:
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Here we have an OLD IBM 4251-1 pull station. I think it dates back to the 1950s, as I don't think IBM began rebranding Couch's pull stations until then. The lock is broken on the top, so I often have the lever pulled to keep the station in place.

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Wheelock AS horn/strobe. This one is the 12VDC version (supports up to around 18VDC, not sure if I want to run it on 24-27VDC). It's also a two-wire horn/strobe. I currently set the volume jumper to "LOW," and have it set on Code-3. The strobe is 15/75 candelas.

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I also got three of these Simplex TrueAlert horn/strobes. They are 4903-9418s, to be exact. They are also 2-wire horn/strobes, but I do not have a SmartSync module to make the horn sound (I CAN get the strobe to flash, though).

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My fourth TrueAlert horn/strobe. Unlike the others, THIS one is white and multi-candela. It is also a two-wire horn/strobe, but I haven't tested it yet.

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The Faraday stuff in my fire alarm collection.

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The "Misc. companies" stuff in my collection, including System Sensor (for now), Space Age Electronics and Standard Electric Time.

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The Wheelock devices in my collection so far.

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All the Simplex devices in my collection. I've got a LOT.
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Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:52 pm

It's been a while but I got some more new devices in my alarm collection now!

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Wheelock MT-24-MS horn/strobe. It's identical to the MT-24-LSM but uses a 30-candela strobe instead of 15/75 candelas.

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Fire-Lite BG-6 pull station. This is pretty old, probably from the '60s or '70s. It resets in an interesting manner; you have to unscrew a bolt on top (using a hex key/wrench) and open the pull station, then close it and screw it shut again.

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Another shot of the BG-6.

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Simplex 2902-9732 LifeAlarm speaker. This dates back to 1983!

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Simplex 4901-9805 electromechanical horn. I got six of these. They are from 1994.

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Simplex 2099-9756 pull station.

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Simplex 2098-9637 2-wire smoke detector base. It is pretty much similar to the 2098-9211.

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The same base but with my 2098-9201 photoelectric smoke detector head on it. I usually see them installed this way.

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Simplex 4259-35 smoke detector head. This is pretty much an ESL detector rebranded. It also doesn't have a thermal heat sensor on it like the 4259-36 does. This is probably from the late '70s. Now I just need a base for it (I did try to buy one off eBay, but the seller told me the base was damaged and sent me a full refund.)

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Simplex 4098-9601 TrueAlarm photoelectric smoke detector head on the 4098-9788 base.
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Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:14 pm

Fair warning on the BG-6, if you have he style with pigtail leads, they break off easily which ruins the switch. This has happened to both my BG-6 and my BG-10 and I cant find replacements for them anywhere!
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FACP 07 wrote:Fair warning on the BG-6, if you have he style with pigtail leads, they break off easily which ruins the switch. This has happened to both my BG-6 and my BG-10 and I cant find replacements for them anywhere!
It is not a switch. It is a N.O. momentary push button and they are easy to find.
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Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:50 pm

Jake wrote:
FACP 07 wrote:Fair warning on the BG-6, if you have he style with pigtail leads, they break off easily which ruins the switch. This has happened to both my BG-6 and my BG-10 and I cant find replacements for them anywhere!
It is not a switch. It is a N.O. momentary push button and they are easy to find.
Right, I was just refering to it as a switch cause...well it is, just a push button type. I shold have been more specific.

And yes I can find them everywhere but the only ones I can find that have the right button length are N.O. and I need a N.C. switch for them. (AKA when no pressure is applied, switch is closed)
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Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:30 pm

Here are a few more additions to my alarm collection:

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Two Simplex "2901-9320" vibrating chime on 2901-9102 strobe plates!

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Here is the back of one of them. The chime seems screwed on pretty tight! (I tried unscrewing one but the screw won't come out.)

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The tag info on one of the strobe plates.

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Space Age Electronics AV32 strobe plate. Note that even though the lens is red, it is actually a high-intensity strobe!

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Tag info. I had no idea the AV32 alarm visual plates were still being manufactured well into 1997! I also have a datasheet that came with it I may scan and upload.

I am also expecting a few more alarm devices from Dan D. sometime soon.
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:19 pm

Here's a new alarm I got from the faculty at South Middle School; they know about my hobby and they recently found some interesting old stuff left in the school's fallout shelter that was just left on the floor by the construction workers after the renovation.

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Simplex 2091-9549 horn. It's pretty much a 120 VAC version of the 2901-9838, and I believe it has a deeper 4050-sounding buzz. If I'm not mistaken, it looks like this must've replaced one of the old Edwards fire horns some time in the 1980s or early 1990s.
I guess Simplex took over with the school's old Edwards fire alarm system some time in the 1970s or 1980s, and this would explain why their current fire alarm system is a Simplex 4100U.

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Here's my 6" IBM 4015-6A bell I also got from the fallout shelter! It was also pretty dirty, so I cleaned it up and put it back together again. As you may know, these were the school bells originally used throughout the building before the renovation. (They still have 8" IBM bells outside, but they no longer work.)
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Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:17 pm

Could you scan the Space Age AV32 Manual datasheet please?

My email is huntercullen1998@yahoo.com and redact it when it's sent.
Remember, fire alarms are a good hobby. They are not a weird interest to have.

Most favorite fire alarm: Simplex 2903 Audio/Visual units.
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Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:56 pm

Wheelockfreak wrote:Could you scan the Space Age AV32 Manual datasheet please?

My email is huntercullen1998@yahoo.com and redact it when it's sent.
Sure, I should get to that sometime soon. Keep in mind, this is a more modern manual from 1996-1997, but it should suffice just fine no matter how old your AV32 is (if you have one).
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Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:49 pm

Wheelockfreak wrote:and redact it when it's sent.
Can't edit your posts! lol
In case of fire, lift handle, then pull down.
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Tue May 17, 2011 5:00 pm

Can you e-mail me the data sheets, too?

Thanks.
Fire Drills: 9/14/11
False Alarms:
Fires:
Lockdown Drills:
Lockdowns:
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Tue May 17, 2011 5:54 pm

Oh, and don't forget to send me the datasheet since you forgot to send me it.
Remember, fire alarms are a good hobby. They are not a weird interest to have.

Most favorite fire alarm: Simplex 2903 Audio/Visual units.
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Tue May 17, 2011 6:57 pm

Wheelockfreak wrote:Oh, and don't forget to send me the datasheet since you forgot to send me it.
I won't; I was rather busy for some time. I should try scanning it tonight (since I just dug it out).
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Thanks! :D
Fire Drills: 9/14/11
False Alarms:
Fires:
Lockdown Drills:
Lockdowns:
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Tue May 17, 2011 8:35 pm

OK, I will send both of you the AV32 datasheet tonight (I will PM you for more info).

Incidentally, I forgot to mention that last month I got another new pull station: an Edwards 278B-1110 dual-action pull rebranded by Honeywell!
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