Concerning Apartment Building

I was looking on Zillow recently and saw a multi family house with many life safety flaws. First, there were only sprinklers in the 1-4 floor stairways. No sprinklers in the basement nor units. I think in total there were like 5 sprinklers in this building. I did see this building was built in 2000s, but still, it’s crazy. It’s definitely better than nothing, but what if there was a fire in the basement, none of the sprinklers would matter. Second, this building has no fire alarm system. It has 4 units, with NINE bedrooms. Many of the units had smoke alarms missing/very old. Lastly is the missing exit signs and emergency lights. This whole building has zero.


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https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/57-71-Xenia-St-Corona-NY-11368/2080381056_zpid/?

What are your thoughts?
Is this up to code?

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Sheesh…yeah that’s a major fire hazard & likely many code violations alright (since last I checked multi-family residences are required to have a full fire detection & alarm system): even worse is the fact that what it does have likely wouldn’t be enough in a fire.

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Without knowing the exact date of construction, or what building code the city of Corona had on its books when the building was built, it’s a little bit tricky to determine whether or not the building has “many code violations alright”.
Unfortunately the oldest edition of the Building Code of New York State I was able to find online was the 2010 edition. The BCNYS is based upon the IBC but with some pretty sizeable amendments. It may have even been built according to the Uniform Building Code which was itself superseded by the IFC in 2000. Again, since I don’t know what code was in the books at the time, I can only speculate on what may have been required as of the 2000 edition of the IBC.

A multi-family residential building is typically classified as a Group R-2 building in the IBC. This is because the IBC considers R-2 occupancies to be ones containing sleeping units or more than two dwelling units where the occupants are primarily permanent in nature (permanent multiple dwellings), including apartment buildings.

In the 2000 edition of the IBC, per section 903.2.8, you are required to sprinkler it, either in accordance with NFPA 13, NFPA 13R, or NFPA 13D. 13 is the typical sprinkler code, but 13R and 13D exist for residential buildings. 13D is not applicable because 13D is limited to one- and two-family dwellings and manufactured homes. So, if you were to build a single-family house and wanted it to be sprinklered (like the State of California requires), you’d be a 13D system.
13R is for low-rise residential buildings. Since the building is four stories, it is considered low-rise (five is the threshold for high-rise).
Again, unfortunately, I do not have access to the 1996 edition of NFPA 13R, but I do have access to the 2007 edition. In the 2007 edition, there are multiple areas where sprinklers are allowed to be omitted, including small bathrooms below 55 sqft, and closets less than 24 sqft. I did see a sprinkler located in the kitchen; depending on the size of the kitchen and the discharge characteristics of the sprinkler, it may be enough to cover the entire area of that room. There may also be concealed sprinklers installed inside the hard ceiling, but the photos/3D tour make it hard to tell.
Even with all of this in consideration, omitted sprinklers or not, if the building is equipped with a 13R system that was in compliance at the time (1996 edition), that building is considered “fully sprinklered”, per section 4.1 (see snapshot):

It is not uncommon for apartment buildings of this age to not be equipped with a fire alarm system or exit signs. There is an exception in Section 907.2.9 for fire alarm systems in Group R-2 buildings that says that if the system is equipped with a 13R sprinkler system (see above, allowable omissions don’t count against being “fully sprinklered”), then a separate fire alarm system is not required and local alarms (i.e smoke alarms) are allowed. Now, the fact that the smoke alarms are in various states of disrepair is a separate problem, but not the fault of the sprinkler system.

Similarly, exit signs are not necessarily required. Per Section 1003.2.10.1, there is an exception for Group R-2 buildings. You wouldn’t expect regular single-family homes to have exit signs plastered throughout, would you? So, a lack of exit signs aren’t really an issue here.

Again, all of this is based on what I was able to thumb through in the editions of the code I have available. Without knowing the exact building code in force at the time, or the requirements of the edition of 13R that building code adopted, I can only speculate.

My apartment building was built in the 80s and it’s not even sprinklered at all. The last apartment complex I lived in was built in the 60s and not sprinklered. That’s not uncommon either.

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As I said previously, there are no sprinklers in the units, including the kitchens.

I doubt that. If they would have concealed sprinklers, they would probably have the little caps visible.


See the top left of the photo; based on context this looks like a shared kitchen/laundry area of the unit. That’s what I was referring to.

As for caps - sometimes the caps are so flat that they sit flush with the ceiling, and if the ceiling is painted and the caps are not taped off or removed, it’s possible to paint right over it and make it look like it isn’t there. Not saying that’s 100% the case, but not outside the realm of possibility.

That’s understandable. The kitchen is technically in a stairway, So I would disagree with you about that. For reference, this is an example of what I would consider a good sprinkled building.





Thank you for all the insights on sprinkler systems in New York. I have a question about a specific situation in Nassau County.

There’s an apartment complex owned by the town where approximately 70 people reside. Last year, one of the buildings in the complex caught fire. The sprinklers are installed only in the hallways on the second floor of the complex. However, there are no permits on file for the sprinkler system installation, and the local fire department doesn’t have the system registered.

Even if the complex was originally built in the 1980s without sprinklers, wouldn’t they have needed to pull permits and ensure the sprinklers were brought up to code when they were installed (around 2000, for example)? Wouldn’t current laws at the time of installation apply, rather than the laws in place when the building was first constructed?

I’d appreciate any insights or clarification on this.

What town is this in? As Nassau County is a larger area.

From what I know using my own high school as a reference, They don’t need to install additional sprinklers in the building, due to it being that it was grandfathered in that there was no sprinklers needed when it was built. However any sprinklers installed would need to be maintained. If any renovations occurred that would require the affected area to be brought up to modern code and or any sprinklers installed later would also have to follow modern building codes.

I’d also recommend creating a new topic for this.