Fire Alarms in Buildings (2.0)

[aerhardt]

Minneapolis-Saint Paul Airport
Panel- Honeywell XLS-1000

Annunciator- Honeywell Rebranded EST E85010-0148

Notification Appliances- Wheelock S8’s, E70’s, Exceeder remote strobes, and RSS’

Smoke Detectors- Honeywell branded versions of Notifier 751 and 851 series smoke detectors

Pull Stations- Honeywell S464A’s (There must be monitor modules)

[Croatian_fire_alarms]

monitor modules are probably m501 mini mods

[Marojax]

At the Super 8 near me and the Denny’s next door

[Kai_Bannon]

That looks like a Spectronics rebranded 1st generation 7002t without the strobe.

I’ve always wondered why budget motels (especially Wyndham’s economy brands) only have audible NAs outside the rooms in the halls and no devices or detectors inside the rooms.

[TheCarson116]

@Kai_Bannon

That looks like a Spectronics rebranded 1st generation 7002t without the strobe.

That would be a 34-24 then (no idea what the Spectronics model number could be though).

[tythegiant]

Hilton Daytona Beach Oceanfront Resort

Panel: Notifier Addressable Panel (Pre-Honeywell, Early FlashScan)

Lobby and Corridors
Pulls: NBG-12LXes
Detectors: FSP-851s and at least one FSP-951
AVs: Wheelock E70s

Convention Center
Pulls: NBG-12LXes
Detectors: FSP-851s
AVs: Wheelock ET1010-WS-24s (Only the second building I’ve ever seen these in)

Pool Area/Outside
Pulls: NBG-12LXes
AVs: Gentex WSSPK speaker/strobes and Wheelock ET70WPs

Rooms
Detectors: FirstAlert SA9120BCPN residential smoke alarms
AVs: Unknown speakers

[NOTIFIER]

how do they run es notification off of a 4100U?

[TheAlmightyZach (Zach)]

They’re likely just being used as addressable notification devices, which the 4100U can run, but it doesn’t have the ability to use self-test.

[Croatian_fire_alarms]

EST3 system i found in a mall in Croatia. really diverse system. Has a suppression part awell. also has voice evac.

Older EST addressable call point

EST SIGI-270 which replaced an older EST call point

STI stopper push button for suppression abort and EST SIGA-278-REL addressable suppression release pull station. This was for some sort of mechanical rooms in the parking garage.

EST integrity ceiling speaker strobes. These were the main source of signalling in the upper floors. Some places had these on the wall with ceiling strobe.

KAC ema sounder. These were used in the underground parts of the mall.

KAC ema sounder in the parking garages. These were the signalling for the parking garage. most of these where next to the CO alarm sign.

EST SIGA-PS, EST led indicator and EST integrity speaker. this was the average installation in a shop.

EST SIGA-PS, System Sensor led indicator and EST integrity speaker. This was a little newer install as the LED indicator isn’t EST. It is an older indicator though as the LED is red not clear.

Either a SIGA2-PS or a SIGA-PD. can’t tell as the cover was on at the time of this picture. this was in a shop where the space was renovated.

Siemens conventional sounder and yellow conventional call point for fire door/curtain activation. these doors are now redundant as the area which they were protecting were sealed off but the panel controlling the doors was still active.

EST led indicator for elevator shaft detector.

Quite interesting system with American elements.

[TheCarson116]

@Croatian_fire_alarms

Older EST addressable call point

@Croatian_fire_alarms

EST SIGI-270 which replaced an older EST call point

Those are both made by other companies aren’t they? (or at least the second one: I know Ei Electronics once rebranded it)

@Croatian_fire_alarms

STI stopper push button for suppression abort and EST SIGA-278-REL addressable suppression release pull station. This was for some sort of mechanical rooms in the parking garage.

Neat! I do believe that’s the first actual system I’ve seen to have one of those SIGA-278-REL stations!

@Croatian_fire_alarms

EST integrity ceiling speaker strobes. These were the main source of signalling in the upper floors. Some places had these on the wall with ceiling strobe.

Odd if you ask me since the standard fire strobe color in Europe seems to be red: is that also the case in Croatia?

@Croatian_fire_alarms

KAC ema sounder. These were used in the underground parts of the mall.

White notification appliances aren’t just a thing in North America huh?

@Croatian_fire_alarms

Siemens conventional sounder and yellow conventional call point for fire door/curtain activation.

Siemens? Odd if you ask me considering most of the rest of the system is Edwards/EST.

@Croatian_fire_alarms

Quite interesting system with American elements.

Indeed, indeed!

[Croatian_fire_alarms]

1. these call points are originally made by Honeywell KAC but many brands put their module in it.
2. Strobes aren’t law and doesn’t have code in croatia but installers choose red or clear. In EU standard colors are Red, Orange, and clear. depends per country though.
3. Yes white appliances can also be used as fire. white appliances are usually used for mass notification but they can be for fire. It is a problem in europe where you cant tell easily what alarm is what.
4. That sounder is just made by Siemens. its not apart of the fire system but a fire shutter system.

[TheCarson116]

1. Ah okay.
2. Huh, alright then (I’ve mostly seen red though).
3. Ah. That problem might be solved if they were marked “FIRE”, “ALERT”, etc. (in the local language(s) of course)
4. Ah alright.

[firealarmking]

I am back everyone with a new system!!

The Westchester Mall, White Plains, NY

Pull Stations:

• Edwards 270-SPO
• One Autocall-rebranded Simplex T-bar
• Simplex T-bars (in Neiman Marcus)

N/As:

• Wheelock remote strobes (unknown model)
• One Wheelock Exceeder H/S
• Simplex TrueAlerts
• One Potter Select-a “ALERT” labeled H/S
• System Sensor L-Series Speaker/Strobes
• Atlas Sound speakers on Simplex 4903 strobe plates (in Neiman Marcus)

Smoke Detectors:

• System Sensor 2400-series detectors with the thermal element

Other Devices:

• Simplex emergency phones by the elevator landings at Neiman Marcus

[Kai_Bannon]

That’s probably the most american system in Croatia we’ve seen so far, I didn’t know they would have clear/white FIRE strobes as well with the STI series manual triggers and covers as well.

[Croatian_fire_alarms]

Eh not the most American system. More coming eventually here and lots of noti aswell.

[googleuser3212 (Max Dutiel)]

Is this in NE? I know spectronics is based in Lincoln, so that’s why I’m asking.

[Marojax]

Nah this in near Seattle, WA

[Croatian_fire_alarms]

Old late 90s notifier system in an appliance store with some American like components. I don’t know if this system still stands. I hope it still is.

Notifier M500kac CLIP call point (caught this picture while polling)

KAC notifier addressable sounder strobe

Notifier fire alarm sign with Notifier CMX1-E control module. Weird that this polls red and not green.

Notifer SDX-751E smoke.

Notifier M701e relay module for sliding fire door.

Sliding fire door controller.

Notifier MMX-1e monitor module for parking garage CO alarm.

KeyGaurd alarmed key box for sprinkler room. has a remote output probably monitored by an MMX-1e.

[googleuser3212 (Max Dutiel)]

The module that polls red is probably using CLIP.

[Croatian_fire_alarms]

Yes this system is mostly CLIP devices. But green on notifier indicates relay/control on clip but the older control polled red instead which isnt usual.