Kirkwood Mall- Bismarck, ND
This is the area’s largest mall, but that’s not saying too much. It is only one floor. This mall was built in the 1970s-80s and has only ever gone through one system upgrade.
Old System (1970’s-2021):
Panel: Unknown 70’s-80’s conventional Edwards panel
Notification Appliances: Edwards 890 series horn/strobes
Pull Stations: Edwards 270-SPO’s
Detectors: Unknown, but probably old Edward’s conventional smoke detectors
New System (2021-Current):
Panel: Siemens FireFinder XLS with voice evac
Notification Appliances: Rebranded versions of Wheelock LED3 Speaker/Strobes and E90 remote speakers
Pull Stations: Siemens HMS-S addressable pull stations
Detectors: Siemens addressable smoke detectors
Interesting Note: There are no alarms from the mall’s main system in any of the stores.
It looks like the MS-5012 is still powered. Is it still mandated as a backup? How does it function as a backup?
Personally, I have no idea about how it works as a backup, but every ACME that was a former A&P in the Connecticut area has a main panel and the Fire-Lite communicator with an Albertson’s and/or A&P asset tag stuck to it.
Old fire alarm sounder in my college building
Baxter arena Omaha, NE. System is an EST3 with Voice Evac. NAs are genesis series devices.
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Pretty sure the second photo you posted isn’t necessary as it doesn’t show any part of the system.
If you can I’d (quite literally) aim for the devices when taking photos: that’s all we here really need to see (including getting as close as you can without getting in trouble).
That ceiling-mount Genesis being wall-mounted is quite unusual (even if the optic design might allow it to be used in either location).
The second photo was meant to be of the system, but it was a Live Photo, so for some reason it stopped it on that frame even though I took a pic of the device.
Here are 2 more pics. My question is why do they have a strobe up high and a strobe down low as well? Kind of seems redundant.
Maybe for adequate visual coverage if the room is quite tall.
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That’s possible. But why would they put the speaker strobes so high up then?
Perhaps because the speaker being higher-up means it can cast sound further than if it were lower.
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DSW - Consumer Square - Mays Landing, NJ
Panel: Silent Knight Conventional Panel
Pulls: SK-PULL-SAs
Detectors: Mircom MIX-DH3000 duct detectors and First Alert residential smoke alarms
AVs: VIKING rebranded Wheelock NSes (Probably a local company)
“Viking” is short for “Viking Group, Inc.”, a manufacturer & distributor of fire sprinkler system products headquartered in Caledonia, Michigan: https://www.vikinggroupinc.com/ (not sure why they went to the trouble of rebranding Wheelock’s NS & possibly other products from them or other manufacturers but yeah)
Dick’s Sporting Goods - Consumer Square - Mays Landing, NJ
Panel: Simplex conventional panel
Pulls: At least one 2099-9761
Detectors: None
AVs: 4903 horn/strobes
In a pizza shop in the same plaza there’s a simplex 4903 with a viking T-bar
No idea why that’s the case since Simplex systems typically have everything be Simplex but okay.
Kolbe Cathedral High School, Bridgeport, CT:
- Panel: Unknown
- Pulls: Simplex 4251-20s
- N/As: Simplex 2903 strobe plates in most areas with unknown horns. But, there are some SpectrAlert Classics slapped on the strobe plate in some areas, such as the gymnasium! Yuck!
- Detectors: Unknown, possibly Simplex “Wiffle-Ball” detectors or 2400s
Looks like the Springfield community center still has the Wheelock 7002Ts and FCi FC-72 from what looks like the late-1980s. Except the pool room, where there’s a 34T. Also the BG-6? pull stations.
Probably not an ideal setup. The strobes being mounted low for coverage is a good idea, but for best audible coverage, bullhorn speakers would be better than a speaker with a redundant strobe
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Ah yes: good idea considering the probable size of the room.
