Fire Alarms in Buildings (2.0)

University of Bridgeport, Bridgeport, CT:

I- Cox Student Center

Panel: Silent Knight IFP-1000ECS

Pulls: SK PS-DAs:

Alarms: Siemens speaker/strobes and remote strobes:


Detectors: System Sensor 2151s

II- Manderville Hall

Panel: Same, but no voice evac

Pulls: SK PS-DAs

Alarms: Select-A horn/strobes

Detectors: SK detectors

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Portillo’s Near Me

Panel: Some sort of conventional (maybe voice evac) Fire-Lite panel, with an AFP style annunciator, branded by Fire-Lite

Pulls: NBG10L’s, and NBG12L’s

Alarms: SpectrAlert Classic speaker strobes, And System Sensor MASS speaker strobes

Honestly, I am not sure about what panel this could be. The annunciator is an AFP style annunciator, without a display, and marked as Fire-Lite. The panel could have voice evac, like a Notifier AMG, or the speakers could be fed by a separate panel, like a Wheelock Safepath. If anyone could help identify the parts in this system, that would be awesome, but I understand if I do not have enough details to make any assumptions.

Sorry for no pictures

Atrius Health (Post Office Square) - Boston, MA
I was walking around in the area… and came across this building, which still has a Simplex 2001 in use in 2024!

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They even still got that vintage Gamewell master box as well that’s in use. It’s like they have a whole wall dedicated to the system.

Wow that’s a heck of a setup! The green-painted Gamewell box is also neat too!

ACME Markets, Stamford, CT:

Panels:

  • Notifier unkown SFP-series panel (in use)
  • Fire-Lite MS-5012 Fire Control/Communicator (unused)

Pulls:

  • EST SIGA-278s

Alarms:

  • SpectrAlert Advances in white

Woah, I recognize that 2001! I recall seeing it during a trip to Boston in 2012, as I stayed at a hotel located near that building (the place had a different name at the time—if I’m not mistaken, it was Harvard Vanguard Medical). I spotted the panel through the windows of the building’s lobby while walking back to the hotel one evening and stopped briefly to look at it. I regretted not getting a photo.

I still think of that panel from time to time; I was convinced that it was long gone by now. I was surprised that it was still in service 12 years ago, so it’s amazing to see that it’s still there today.

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AtlantiCare Regional Medical Center, Mainland Campus - Pomona, NJ

Panel: Simplex Addressable Panel (most likely a 4100U)

Pulls: None (that I saw anyway but there probably are pulls somewhere and are likely just addressable T-bars)

Detectors: Addressable TrueAlarms

AVs: TrueAlert ceiling mount speakers and wall mount strobes

Annunciation Greek Orthodox Church, Stamford, CT:

  • Panel: Some Fire-Lite panel (??)+ a Wheelock Safepath
  • Pulls: Gamewell Centuries
  • N/As: Wheelock E70s
  • Smokes: Unknown

BIG UPDATE: My elementary school’s fire alarm system got replaced! I was riding my bicycle around the school, and took some pictures through the windows. Firstly, I will go over its original system:

  • Panel: EST QuickStart (replaced by an iO64)
  • Pulls: Edwards 270-SPOs
  • Alarms: EST 792-7A-006 horn/strobes, 1 EST Integrity (in kindergarten hallway near OT and PT room/Special Ed classrooms, and 1 EST Genesis (in media center)
  • Detectors: Edwards GS photo detectors

And worse, the new system has been taken over by Honeywell!

  • Panel: Silent Knight SK6820EVS
  • Pulls: Silent Knight PS-DAs
  • N/As: L-Series speaker/strobes and Advance speaker/strobes outside
  • Detectors: SK-PHOTO-Ws
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With the closure and demolitiion of Brockton’s historic high school building, the alternative high school program that was there had moved into a building that once served as a private therapeutic school, built some time in the 1980s and with a gymnasium added in the early 2000s. The facility still has the existing Notifier system that was installed when the gymnasium was built. I didn’t clearly see the panel, but it looks to be an AFP-100 or AFP-200. The alarm signals are Wheelock AS horn/strobes, the smoke detectors are FSP-851s, and the pull stations are NBG-12LXs (many with Stopper II covers).
I’m surprised the system was left as-is; I thought they would’ve at least replaced the panel with a newer model (like an NFS-320 or something).

Botsford Elementary School (Livonia) - opened in 1953

Annunciators/panel:
Original system: Unknown, presumably a National Time & Signal Corporation (Natsco) 2000 series or earlier

Current system: Older GE/EST addressable model (circa mid-to-late 2000s?)

Detectors:
None noticed

Pull stations:
Original system: Unknown–wall plates in the original building where the old devices were are more square shaped than they are rectangular, though the old devices could have had mounting plates. If I had to guess, they were most likely Natsco Type 3500N break-glass stations. At some point, the school had a classroom wing addition, and wall scars from the old devices suggest there were Natsco Type 620M models.

Current system: GE/EST SIGA-278 models

Notification appliances:
Original system: Based on wall scars, they were Natsco Type 310, 311, or 331 horns. The classroom wing addition used Natsco Type 411F horns, and while the flush plates still exist, the horns themselves are long gone. Unlike other places I’ve visited, I did not notice any Natsco trouble bells.

Current system: GE/EST red ceiling-mount Genesis horn/strobes and strobes; there are at least three red wall-mount horn/strobes with the ‘FIRE’ lettering scattered about, however.

Other notes:
The school has a working Natsco bell system that is almost all original! It consists of P806 (black gongs), P806F (classroom wing addition only), and P810FG models, plus one red P804 in the gymnasium, but whether it was used for the original alarm system or is tied into the current bell system is unknown. All bells, to my knowledge, have the -LAKE- labeling on their tags, and are controlled by a Natsco master clock panel from the 1990s.

Very peculiarly, there are two hallways that meet with the main hallway in t-intersections that have two unknown bells at their corners! One has a 6" gong that was painted over with white paint and a flat square mounting plate. The other one is nearly identical, except that the gong is missing, but the gong’s mounting mechanism is still there. Both are mounted next to what I believe are recessed vintage emergency lighting, and both are very close to P806 bells nearby, so I have no idea what these could have been used for, if they’re even still used at all.

Just saw this today.

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Franklin D. Roosevelt Presidential Library, Hyde Park, NY:

I- Visitor Center (built 2003)

  • Panel: Simplex 4100U with Voice Evac
  • Pulls: Simplex 4099-9006 dual-action T-bars
  • N/As: TrueAlert speaker/strobes
  • Smokes: TrueAlarms

II- Presidential Library and Museum (built 1941)

  • Panel: Simplex 4100U with Voice Evac
  • Pulls: Simplex 2099-9754
  • N/As: TrueAlert Speaker/Strobes (on walls and ceilings)
  • Smokes: TrueAlarms

III- Springwood Estate (this is where FDR lived and grew up) (Built 1826)

  • Panel: Tied into security system or a small Notifier panel
  • Pulls: Notifier BG-12s
  • N/As: L-Series Speaker/Strobes
  • Smokes: FSP-951s

IV- Stables (built 1880s)

  • Panel: Unknown
  • Pulls: Fire-Lite BG-12s
  • N/As: Wheelock AS horn/strobes

If the smokes are FSP-751’s, then it has to be a notifier panel and then the pulls are BG12lx’s

Something strange happened with the fire alarm system at my doctor’s office.


They recently replaced all the Simplex 4903-9219 horn/strobes with conventional TrueAlert horn/strobes… but they’re the Autocall rebrand! Yet the system is still Simplex! And they still have the original Simplex 4020 panel from when the medical center was built in 1995, with a new Simplex 4009 IDnet NAC extender installed for the TrueAlerts! They also kept the existing pull stations (Simplex dual-action 2099-9761s and at least one replacement single-action 4099-9001) and smoke detectors (Simplex 4098-9701 (old-style) TrueAlarm detectors on 2-wire bases and at least one replacement 4098-9714 (new-style) TrueAlarm).
I’m guessing somewhere down the line they’ll be replacing the Simplex 4020 panel. Since Johnson Controls/Simplex is still servicing the system, it wouldn’t surprise me if they go with a Simplex 4010ES.

Very strange if you ask me since Simplex & Autocall addressable devices are supposedly not compatible with each other (unless the system is conventional, though that would mean that everything’s hooked to the 4020 via modules since the 4020 is addressable).

Autocall and Simplex conventional systems can be cross compatible with each other but I think the relay would be a temporary measure until they get the new Autocall system in place.

I dont think JCI still services this system or a different provider did the replacement.

Yeah. Given the Autocall TrueAlerts, it was likely NSG Life Safety, the local Autocall distributor (and currently the largest in the country), especially since they’re just one town over and they also have some former JCI/Simplex techs on staff (which is likely how they were also able to get those Simplex 4009 IDnet NAC extender panels). Autocall’s starting to become popular, since you’re basically getting Simplex products for a lower cost than directly from JCI.