I don’t know of many vintage Edwards systems in Ohio, but there was a Catholic HS in Bedford (a southern suburb of Cleveland) that had one from 1957 (coded system with 1250 pulls and 360 horns), I don’t know if that system was salvaged before the building was imploded. A comment I read from OSFA said that Edwards systems are more common in the New England states.
I also live in the Midwest (ND to be specific) and most of the buildings from the 50’s-70’s had/have old Simplex systems. The only Edwards systems that I have seen in my area were from the 90’s and those have already been replaced.
Jon Bon Jovi Service Area - Garden State Parkway - Sayreville, NJ
Panel: EST Addressable Panel
Pulls: SIGA-278s
Detectors: SIGA-PSes, SIGA-HRSes, and SIGA-CODs (on sounder bases)
AVs: Genesis horn/strobes and LED Genesis strobes and horn/strobes
Fire Alarms at the Wang YMCA of Chinatown Boston
Alarm #1: Simplex 4903-9144 speaker strobes
Strobe intensity: 110CD (Orange Triangle)
Year: 1999 (Newer Simplex logo prior to Simplex QuickAlert, 9 of them are like that, 3 of them aren’t)
Quantity used at the YMCA: 12 (2 shown down below)
Locations installed: Boys locker room (1), Main lobby entrance (2), Yoga Room (2), Gymnasium (3), Cardio Fitness room (4, 2 on each floor as you walk through a set of stairs) !Pictures of the 4903-9144s: IMG_1362|375x500
Alarm #2: Simplex 4903-9142 speaker strobe: Strobe intensity: 30CD (Blue Circle)
Year: 1998-1999
Quantity used at the YMCA: 1
Locations installed: Boys locker room (When I was 17 and younger thank you very much, don’t tell anyone. I turned 18 in June 2023 and this photo was taken in February 2023.)
Picture of the 4903-9142:
Alarm #3: Simplex 4903-9146 (This alarm is in very rough shape, unfortunately)
Strobe intensity: 15CD (Green Asterisk/Star)
Year: 1998-1999
Quantity used at the YMCA: 1
Locations installed: Mens locker room
Fun fact: These 15CD speaker strobes are actually 15/75CD, interestingly. I’m not joking, it’s actually true.
Picture of the 4903-9146:
Alarm #4: Simplex 4903-9357 speaker strobes:
Strobe intensity: 75CD
Year: 2002-2003
Quantity used at the YMCA: 5 (1 shown down below)
Locations installed: Weight room (4, 2 on each floor through a set of stairs), Classroom (1)
Fun fact: These speaker strobes are selectable for Free Run and SmartSync/Sync. The ones in the weight rooms are mounted weirdly. These are 75CD, so a little less bright than most of the 4903s here.
Pictures of a 4903-9357:
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Alarm #5: Simplex 4903-9149 speaker strobes:
Strobe intensity: 110CD
Year: 2010’s-2020’s
Quantity used at the YMCA: 5 (2 shown down below)
Locations installed: Gymnasium (1), Pool area (4)
Fun fact: This is the much newer version of the 4903 speaker strobe. These 5 speaker strobes all replaced 4903-9144 speaker strobes.
Pictures of 4903-9149s:
Alarm #6: Simplex 4904-9137 remote strobes
Strobe intensity: 15CD (Green Asterisk/Star)
Year: 1999 (Newer Simplex logo prior to Simplex QuickAlert)
Quantity used at the YMCA: 8 (1 shown down below)
Locations installed: Hallway of kids (boys/girls) locker rooms (1), boys locker room bathroom area (1), mens locker room by the door of the main entrance (1), both single person restrooms (2, 1 in each), free weights room (1), fitness center room (1)
Fun fact: These 15CD strobes are actually 15/75CD, interestingly. I’m not joking, it’s actually true.
Picture of the 4904-9137:
Alarm #7: Simplex 4904-9135 remote strobes
Strobe intensity: 30CD (Blue Circle)
Year: 1999 (Newer Simplex logo prior to Simplex QuickAlert)
Quantity used at the YMCA: 2 (1 shown down below)
Locations installed: Boys locker room locker area (1), classroom (1)
Picture of the 4904-9135:
Alarm #8: Simplex 4904-9136 remote strobe:
Strobe intensity: 110CD (Orange Triangle)
Year: 1999 (Little black hole at the bottom of the strobe reflector)
Quantity used at the YMCA: 1
Locations installed: Fitness center room
Picture of the 4904-9136:
Alarm #9: Simplex 4904-9168 remote strobe:
Strobe intensity: 15CD
Year: 2010’s
Quantity used at the YMCA: 1
Locations installed: Mens locker room bathroom area (renovated in 2012)
Fun fact: This strobe is Free Run! A fixed candela modern day strobe is either going to be the 4904-9168 (15CD), 4904-9169 (75CD) or 4904-9170 (110CD) free run remote strobes. This particular one is 15CD.
Pictures of the 4904-9168:
Alarm #10: Simplex 4906-9101 remote strobes (These alarms are mounted on the ceiling with is against code):
Strobe intensity: 15, 30, 75, 110CD (All set on 15CD)
Year: 2010’s
Quantity used at the YMCA: 4
Locations installed: Mens locker room locker area (renovated in 2012)
Fun fact: These strobes are SmartSync. These are in fact the only SmartSync TrueAlerts in this YMCA. These are mounted on the ceiling which is against code; the ceiling mounted version is the 4906-9102 and the selectable ceiling mount remote strobes are the 4904-9183/9184/9185. These were installed during the same year as that 4904-9168, except they are completely syncable.
Pictures of a 4906-9101:
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Fire Alarms at the Kinzie Hotel in Chicago, IL
Simplex QuickAlert 75CD remote strobe (This is either a Simplex 4904-9169 or 4904-9332)
Simplex QuickAlert 110CD remote strobe (This is either a Simplex 4904-9170 or 4904-9333)
This one has an Orange Triangle to indicate the 110CD!
Simplex 4904-9164 110CD Ceiling strobe (RARE!) with both wall and ceiling lettering
A Wheelock remote speaker of some sort. These were the speakers, the QuickAlerts were the strobes
I’ll admit, this was quite an interesting ADA compliant system from 1999! I’m assuming the hotel was built in 2000.
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That’s likely a Wheelock E70-R.
That doesn’t make sense though: you can’t put in the system before the hotel is built! (unless you’re implying the devices were sourced in 1999 even though the hotel wasn’t built until a year later, which you do see with some systems)
Fire Alarms at the Boston Prudential Center/Copley Square Plaza (One building was constructed in 1983 and the other in 1993)
Simplex 4903-9105+Various speakers
Simplex 2902 Speakers
Gentex GXS-4-HWR (same strobe as 4903-9105)
Simplex 4903-9357 (75CD), there were a bunch of these early 2000’s speaker strobes installed in one section
Simplex 4903-9358 (110CD)
Simplex 4903-9359 (15CD)
Simplex 4903-9146 (15CD, later model)
Simplex 4903-9144/4903-9149 (110CD, most of the 4903 speaker strobes were only 15CD, unfortunately, I was hoping for 30 and 110CD models, there were several of these things mounted on the ceiling, which is not a fail because the wall and ceiling 4903s/4904s use the same lenses!)
Simplex 4903-9147 (15CD, later model, there was a bunch of these installed in one section)
Simplex 4906-9151 (Multi CD, set at 110CD)
Simplex 4906-9153 (Multi CD, set at 110CD)
Simplex 4906-9154 (Multi CD, set at 75 or 110CD?)
Simplex 4906-9103 (Set on 75CD)
EST Genesis Speaker strobes (Both wall and ceiling)
Space Age VA4/A32 strobe plates with speakers attached to them (I love Space Age!)
Space Age AV34 Light Plate (Very chunky size, but lovely!)
System Sensor SpectrAlert Advance Weatherproof Remote strobes (Not shown)
Wheelock AS Horn strobes in a Star Market Grocery store nearby (Not Simplex!)
There’s probably many more models I missed; correct me if I’m wrong; there could’ve been some Simplex QuickAlert or 4904 remote strobes installed too as well as other EST speaker strobes. Love the variety here!
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Nishu Bowmen Club Indoor Archery Range-
Mandan, ND
Panel- Siemens SXL-EX
Pull Stations- Siemens MS-51’s
Smoke Detectors- Siemens OP-121’s
Notification Appliances- Siemens ZH-MC-R horn/strobes and ZR-MC-R remote strobes
Note:
This system seems to have an abundance of audible coverage. It seems like they tried to avoid using remote strobes as much as possible. For example, there is a small classroom that has two horn/strobes. The only place where there are remote strobes is in the restrooms.
Lighthouse Point (DCL private island)
EST 3 Systems with G1AVRF‘s for NA’s and Siga-278’s for pulls. I didn’t see any smokes but all the buildings were sprinkled. Every building regardless of size is tied into a system I think. I think this because a small bathroom had a system and sprinklers.
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Update: most of the pulls were replaced with Edwards 278s behind Stopper Covers. The guestrooms have low frequency sounders.
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Museum of Science and Industry (newly renamed Griffin Museum of Science and Industry)
Panel - Unknown (probably a 4100 series panel)
Detectors - New TrueAlarm smoke and heat detectors, along with some older TrueAlarm detectors (older pictured below)
Pulls - Not very many pulls, not even by exit doors, however the two pull stations that i did see were in the coal mine exhibit, and i have seen one in the toymaker exhibit. The first pull i saw in the exhibit was a rebranded older national time and signal pull station like this. not sure of original manufacturer, however this pull was rebranded by Simplex
(more pictures coming soon)
The second pull I saw was a normal Simplex t-bar, with what appeared to be a break-glass attachment. instead of the normal 4251-30 or 2099-9103 style, there was a box over the handle (key was still accessible) with a striker hammer attached to the side. the picture i have is very poor, but it is coming soon.
Notification Appliances - This building had a bunch of different types of Wheelock vandal-resistant remote speakers and speaker strobes inside, as well as E70 remote speakers and speaker strobes inside. The vandal-resistant NA’s include: Wheelock ET-80s in red and white, as well as remote speaker variants. There were also Wheelock ET-1080 WMs in red and white, as well as remote speaker variants. Last time I came, I remember seeing a Wheelock AS outside the food court, which is now removed.
I have not uploaded the pictures from my phone to my computer yet, so I currently dont have those, but expect them soon!
The various systems of John Ball Zoo
First up is the gift shop which is EST
Next is the South America section/reptile section
Next is the Africa section
I forgot where this one was.
The aquarium (I’d like to note the bell is the only audible device in there)
Where the frogs are
And, finally the hippo area
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That’s an SP-series t-bar by RSG, Inc.: several companies have rebranded them including Simplex (likely because they don’t have their own metal pulls for outdoor applications).
Sounds more like a particular model of RSG RMS-series pull station to me: some have a box over the front of the station (specifically the handle area) in which is a piece of glass, & also a hammer attached to the side of said box.
Now removed? Did they put a new device in its place or is there now a blank cover plate where it used to be? (& why did they remove it?)
Ooh, rare WM-series MTs! (indoors & with newer Simplex t-bars no less!) Great find! (that sole Commander is nice too, especially since you really don’t find that many systems that have Gentex devices in general)
That’s odd…why do you suppose that’s the case?
Sounds like the name of a book or movie to me, heh.
Not sure why it was there in the first place, as when I was there last, I didn’t look out for notification appliances, but I did see a pull station with the glass cover in the toy maker section. there is now a cover plate where the AS used to be, may have been removed. I believe that the system was hybrid voice/horns at one point, and they may have completely switched to voice. Why do you think that all of the speakers are Wheelock vandal-resistant. there all indoors, and probably not at any risk of being vandalized.
Basin Electric Power Cooperative Headquarters Building-
Bismarck, ND
Note- This building is around 7 floors, depending on the part that you go in. This building was remodeled in the late 2010’s, and has one of the last Johnson Controls rebranded Notifier systems. Half was renovated first, and then around a year later the other half was renovated. If this building was built any later, it probably would have gotten a Simplex system.
Panel: Johnson Controls IFC2-3030 with JDVC (Rebranded Notifier NFS2-3030 with DVC)
Notification Appliances: The slightly older half has System Sensor SPSR and SPSCR speaker/strobes, and SR and SCR remote strobes. The slightly newer half has System Sensor SPSCWL speaker/strobes and SCWL remote strobes.
Pull Stations: Johnson Controls JBG-12LX’s (Rebranded Notifier BG-12LX’s)
Smoke Detectors: Johnson Controls 2951J addressable smoke detectors
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I believe you are thinking of the Johnson Controls 2951J smoke detector, which has a resemblance to FireLite’s SD355 detector
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The Johnson Controls rebrand for the Notifier BG-12LX is the JBG-12LX, not the JBG-12LXP, which is the Portuguese version of the BG-12LX
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Thank you! I’m not very familiar with these Johnson Controls products or really any Honeywell products. I changed both things.
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Maybe just for additional toughness in the environment they’re in.
Highland Square Apartments & Offices/733 West Market–Akron; built around 1974
Panel: Simplex 4207/8 (or possibly a 4247–one of the last ones ever made) with 4300 annunciator
Initiating devices: Simplex 4251-20 (Same as my former high school); unknown ESL smoke detectors
Signals–Simplex 4037s (6VAC) with ugly Wiremold conduit sticking out of them.
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