Most Potter systems in my area use System Sensor devices. I haven’t seen any Potter systems near me us LED L-Series yet.
That’s definitely odd that they decided to use System Sensor devices. I guess they must have been cheaper, or the installer prefers them. I still have yet to see a Potter system with Eluxa devices. All of the Potter systems in my area were installed before Potter transitioned away from Gentex.
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does the annouciator have its own supervisory?
Fascinating that it’s a conventional Potter system (PFC-4064) too – I reckon it must have gone in to replace an existing conventional system when they had to redo the notification for some reason? (That said, there might be addressable bits floating around too depending on the size of the building, as the PFC-4064 can be networked with Potter’s addressable panels.)
Potter system with LED L Series💀
Kalahari Resort- Wisconsin Dells, WI (Major Update):
Around a year ago, I made a post going over the system at this resort. I also mentioned that they had been doing some renovations recently and had updated the system. Well, I just got back from a vacation to this place and it turns out there have been some new developments since that post. In this post, I will re-cover the original system, go over the changes that were made over the past couple of years, and discuss what is to come in the future.
Here is how the system looked in 2022, according to my original post:
Last time I divided the resort up into sections, and I will be doing the same thing this time, but I when I go over the new changes I will be dividing up one of the sections a bit differently. Here is how I divided it up this time:
Note that what was previously section 1 has been divided up into two sections this time
Here is an overview of how the system looks today:
Panel: Still the same Johnson Controls IFC2-3030 panels networked together, but the firmware has been changed to Notifier, essentially making it now a Notifier NFS2-3030 network. Even the annunciators now show the Notifier logo instead of the previous Johnson Controls logo.
Section 1: (Opened in 2000 and Renovated in 2024-2025)
Notification Appliances: Red wall mounted System Sensor Spectralert Classic horn/strobes and remote strobes in most areas, and System Sensor P2RLED, SRLED, PC2WLED, and SCWLED horn/strobes and remote strobes in the renovated areas of the lobby. There are also Xenon L-Series horn/strobe and remote strobe devices in the renovated Spa Kalahari.
Detectors: Mostly Johnson Controls 2951J smoke detectors and 5951J heat detectors in the lobby above the restaurant.
Pull Stations: Mostly Notifier BGX-101L pull stations, with at least one Johnson Controls JBGX-101L that may be a replacement and at least one replacement Johnson Controls JBG-12LX
Rooms: Kidde P3010 series Smoke and CO alarms and Gentex GX90-4R mini horns
Annunciator: Flush mounted Johnson Controls JLCD-160 Annunciator with no door by the main entrance that now shows the Notifier logo on the screen.
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Section 2: (Opened in 2000 and Renovated in 2024)
This is the indoor waterpark. Still pretty much no fire protection here, except for a couple System Sensor SPSRK speaker/strobes at the new Cracked Coconut Bar, and SPSCWK, SCWL, SPSCWL, and SPSRL speaker/strobes and remote strobes in the renovated locker rooms.
Section 3: (Opened sometime after 2000 and before 2005)
Notification Appliances: Wheelock AS-24MCW-FR horn/strobes and RSS-24MCW-FR remote strobes
Detectors: Mostly Johnson Controls 2951J smoke detectors, and one Notifier FSP-951 in a stairwell where new coverage was added. There is also for some reason a Notifier FST-751 by one of the entrances that must have been NOS.
Pull Stations: Mostly Johnson Controls JBG-12LG pull stations, with a few JBGX-101L pull stations and one Notifier NBG-12LX in that aforementioned stairwell
Rooms: Simplex rebranded Gentex GX90-4W mini horns and Kidde P3010 series smoke and CO detectors (the ADA rooms have Wheelock AS-24(XX)W-FW and RSS-24(XX)W-FW devices instead of mini horns)
Photos:
Section 4: (Opened in 2008)
Notification Appliances: Wheelock E70-24MCW-FR, E90-24MCC-FR, E90-24MCC-FW, and RSS-24MCW-FR speaker/strobes and remote strobes. There is also one Eaton ELSPSTRC that was recently added in an attraction that previously lacked coverage. They actually use the speakers in this section for general paging throughout the theme park.
Detectors: Johnson Controls 2951J smoke detectors (including two by the elevator that are less than a foot apart for some reason)
Pull Stations: Johnson Controls JBG-12LX’s
Annunciators: There are three flush-mounted Johnson Controls JLCD-160 annunciators with no doors throughout this section that all now show the Notifier logo on the screen.
Remote Microphone: A Johnson Controls RM-1SA an a CAB-RMR cabinet next to the annunciator in the theme park’s main entrance
Photos:
Section 5: (Opened sometime after 2000 and before 2005)
Notification Appliances: Wheelock E70-24(XX)W-FW, E90-24(XX)C-FW, and RSS-24(XX)W-FW speaker/strobes and remote strobes. The E70 devices are the older ones with the Wheelock logo next to the “FIRE” lettering on the front.
Detectors: Johnson Controls 2951J smoke detectors
Pull Stations: Johnson Controls JBG-12LX’s
Annunciator: Johnson Controls JLCD-160 flush mounted annunciator with no door that now shows the Notifier logo on the screen.
Section 6: (Opened sometime after 2000 and before 2005)
Notification Appliances: Wheelock NS-24MCW-FW and RSS-24MCW-FW horn/strobes and remote strobes.
Detectors: Johnson Controls 2951J smoke detectors
Pull Stations: None in the hallways, but I would assume that there is probably at least one Johnson Controls JBG-12LX somewhere in the building, such as at the front desk
Rooms: Johnson Controls 2951J smoke detectors on older System Sensor sounder bases (the ones that have a continuous piezo horn) If one goes off, all of the rooms on that floor go off. They do not sound the general building alarm. I know this because they went off during our stay in 2022.
Section 7: (Opened in 2024)
Notification Appliances: System Sensor PC2WL, SCWL, P2WL, and SWL horn/strobes and remote strobes.
Detectors: Notifier FSP-951 smoke detectors
Pull Stations: None in the hallways, but I would assume that there is probably at least one Notifier NBG-12LX somewhere in the building, such as at the front desk
Rooms: Notifier SFP-951 smoke detectors on System Sensor low frequency sounder bases
Section 8: (Opened in 2000 and renovated in 2024)
This area was originally part of section one, but I separated it in my map because this area was completely renovated in 2024 and received a complete fire alarm overhaul.
Notification Appliances: System Sensor SPSRL and SRL speaker/strobes and remote strobes.
Detectors: Notifier FSP-951 smoke detectors
Pull Stations: Notifier NBG-12LX pull stations
What does the future hold?:
I don’t see much getting changed in the near future, except for possibly with section 2 (the waterpark). They are currently working on expanding the indoor waterpark to be about double the size. It will be the largest indoor waterpark in the United States. I think that the new addition will almost certainly have System Sensor LED speaker/strobes and remote strobes. Hopefully they also expand that fire protection to the existing areas as well. Eventually, I’m sure they will upgrade to a Notifier Inspire system.
Back at the system that was included with the fire alarm fail from the couch pull station, the replacement wasnt a es-200x, it was a silent knight 6808 System!
Yes, it does have its own supervisory.
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ahhh!!! okay. I wonder what the supervisory was.
Jacksonville International Airport
The parking garage burnt down 3 months ago, but there are cars in it now.
Edit: The airport actually has three parking garages, the fire occurred in the hourly parking garage. I don’t know if I saw the hourly garage or not, so that one may still be out of order. The one I did see had cars in it though. I apologize for misleading everyone.
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Blank Stopper II huh? Odd…
What? What happened there?
A car burnt down and it spread to around 50 other cars because the garage lacked sprinklers.
Museum of Science and History: Jacksonville, FL
This museum is closing down on September 1st, and they are building a new location.
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Seriously? Jeez…seems like someone missed a major life safety oversight there!
Interesting mix of devices: you oughta try to somehow save them if you can! Why are they moving though if their current location likely works just fine?
I can’t believe whoever installed the one ceiling-mount L-series not only surface-mounted it using a box (which of course doesn’t look all that good) but also left the wire to it exposed like that.
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I believe the MOSH is moving because their new building will be part of an ongoing development. Here is a news article about it. MOSH sets closure date to focus on development of new state-of-the-art facility on Jacksonville’s Northbank
Wow that’s not good at all. That just shows the importance of sprinklers. It’s a good thing that parking garages are generally made out of concrete. Otherwise, that whole parking garage would likely be gone.
Well according to an earlier message Pharynx said the entire garage did burn down, thus implying that the previous one wasn’t made of a non-flammable material like concrete!
Oh. I just assumed that they meant there was a fire but the structure was fine because they said it happened 3 months ago but there are now cars in it.
Just a warehouse near me, mts, Used to be a Gamewell system. They have a bosch FPA-1000-UL System. i think its called that with bosch pull stations.
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Great find! Gamewell-rebranded Wheelock devices are definitely rare to find, especially in actual systems!