Now this is in a Bar & Restaurant, I wouldnt know why they chose voice evac for this, but its really cool. Dont know why they have a whetherproof speaker strobe indoors.
This Is From Elizabethtown High School In Elizabethtown Kentucky
The Alarms Are 4906-9127 Replacing 4903-9105 With 9838 Horns
The Pulls Were Old Autocall But Later Replaced By 4099-9004
No idea why they couldn’t have mounted that one SpectrAlert speaker/strobe the right way around considering there’s plenty of room there for it, but that in turn will likely result in inadequate strobe coverage due to the reflector being designed to face downward rather than sideways. From the looks of it that sole L-series speaker/strobe is also replacing one of the SpectrAlert ones going by the bit of patched-up wall that can still be seen.
Oh yeah…two of those speaker/strobes also look like they’re close to falling off the wall!
Going by the existence of xenon Genesis speaker/strobes, yeah (though not really that old: Integrities, pre-Integrities, or 896-series speaker/strobes would be really old! (& really rare as well in the case of the latter two!).
I’m guessing they mounted it that way because the back box is mounted directly in the middle of that wall, so the device would be off center if they mounted it the correct way. I’m not saying they should have done that, but that’s probably why. If they were that concerned, they really should have used a separate speaker and strobe with one mounted above the other. Nowadays, they should just replace it with a SPSRLED to solve all of the problems. This is one of the reasons why that design was really not great. A strobe mounted on top of a speaker/horn will always be superior when it comes to mounting flexibility.
New store installation, LED Devices.
That’s not happening in that mall you previously posted is it? (also that doesn’t look like FPL to me given its lack of red coloring, at least if FPL is always red, which one would think it would be for identification)
No, its a different store installation. Not the mall.
Also, the mall I showed before is an outlet type of mall, it has whetherproof est speaker strobes. Now this is very intresting, Potter Bells in a ROSS of all places!
FPL is most commonly red, but it is indeed sold in multiple colors.
I’m surprised that’s even allowed under code: wouldn’t it make sense to have FPL always be red so that it can be readily & precisely identifiable as FPL?
forgot to say that’s wire for something else..
Oh, it is? It looks like it’s hooked straight to the NA though.
Yeah, it goes over it, there’s a hidden conduit somewhere connected to a backbox.
What do you think about this?
I recently attended a Christmas market at an old industrial building. This building has a rather peculiar system: the pull stations are 270-SPOs, and the signals are pre-ADA Wheelock MT4 horn/strobes (identical to this unit). I also saw an AC-powered Kidde smoke alarm with an LED strobe. I did not see a panel or an annunciator.
I noticed that the MT4 horn/strobes have labels reading “fire alarm device - do not paint” on the side, like other recent Wheelock devices. This leads me to believe that they are newer models (more specifically, MT4-115-WH-VFRs). The horn/strobes are in fantastic condition and, based on the appearance of the backboxes and conduit, seem to be recent additions. If that’s indeed the case, I never thought I’d come across a new installation that uses pre-ADA horn/strobes; this must be the most anachronistic use of a device I’ve ever seen.
Reminds me a lot of the unusual 120VAC-powered no-FACP system that SafeTech came across in this video.
On the side? Last I checked they often have such a warning on the front, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Wheelock NA that had that on the side!
That is indeed quite odd: heck Wheelock probably doesn’t even make that particular model anymore given the complete discontinuation of the MT-series as a whole do they? (surprised they made it up until now though considering it probably wouldn’t see much use outside of say waterflow applications given its frosted (& thus non-ADA) strobe & 120VAC power requirement)
I think you’re right that they are now discontinued. After looking at both the Wheelock-Products and Eaton websites, I can find no mention of these devices being for sale anymore. Now, it seems like the Potter SH-120 and SASH-120 are the only options for 120v sprinkler alarms. It’s no wonder I’ve been seeing them on every new building in my area. The most recent MT4-115-WH-VFR install I’ve seen was on a building that was opened in 2023.