Orlando intl Airport
Main Terminal
Panel: Est 3
Alarms: Unmarked Est genesis speaker/strobes
Pulls: Est sigas and 270-SPO
Smokes: ?
Other: Wheelock MTs used as security alarms. Some advances as alarms to notify that that another system has been activated. Some blue integrtys as AED alarms.
There are more 4 smaller concourses at the airport. they have similar systems.
Yeah, especially the solid-color & local alarm-lettering 270-series station & the smaller-lettering ESL 5000-series station!
9 floors!? Jeez…put in a Notifier system at that point!
Oops, wrong information, it is on a silent knight system, but there are a handfull of replacement bg-12s rebranded by fire-lite, and some ESL-5000 pull stations, all devices are 7002Ts and 3 Generations of system sensor devices! Classics, Advances, And L Series!
Oh okay: now a Silent Knight panel, that might be much better-suited for a building with that many floors! Interesting device arrangement too.
Very nice! Those Genesis LED devices are honestly better-looking then I originally thought they were!
Nice! Huge upgrade over a Honeywell product, and especially a Silent Knight one. Although, it’s not all that much of a feat to be an improvement over a Honeywell product.
Edwards isn’t all that bad. I used to dislike them a lot more than I do now, but now I realize that, just like Siemens and Simplex systems, although they have had some QC issues just like any company, they tend to get a bad reputation mostly because their systems are extremely customizable compared to most Honeywell systems (at least when it comes to dealers doing the work) and can be easily messed up with bad programming. On the other hand, Honeywell systems tend to be much easier to program and still run into a ton of issues.
They do look pretty good. Much like the original Genesis series, I actually much prefer their look with a trim plate. Unlike most people, I’ve never actually had a problem with the looks of any LED device, except maybe that Edwards rebranded LED Exceder that they attempted to use before they had their own LED line. Besides, the looks of a device really don’t matter to most building owners as long as it’s not an obnoxiously huge eyesore (cough, cough…Simplex’s outdated TrueAlert and TrueAlert ES line), and the looks don’t matter at all when it comes to what really matters- saving lives.
Incompetent technicians from 3rd-party service companies probably also play a big role in that too I’d imagine (when it comes to more general system flaws & such, since of course a life safety system is only as good as those who design, engineer, certify, manufacture, install, & maintain it).
Yeah.
Well to be honest something looks off to me about having the small ones on trim plates like that.
The one I’ve mainly had a problem with is the Eluxa-series, which has an inexplicably-asymmetrical lens design: the heck were they thinking?
Well the TrueAlert-series I’d say is fine, as long as it hasn’t really changed any since the SimplexGrinnell/Tyco era, but the TrueAlert ES-series is a different story, mainly in how stupidly high-pitched they are (too high-pitched if you ask me, especially compared to their non-ES TrueAlert counterparts, which are at a good pitch) & how the TrueAlert ES ceiling speaker/strobe is literally just a TrueAlert ES ceiling speaker with a 4903-series strobe lazily glued to the side (Edwards on the other hand did much better with their ceiling speaker/strobe by separating the strobe into four & placing each one around the central speaker (which of course LEDs make easy to do), thus leaving it clear & intelligible (or so Simplex claims is the reason for them putting the strobe off to the side on theirs at least) while still also maintaining 360 degrees of strobe coverage).
You’re certainly right about that. I was thinking that as well, but I forgot to mention it. I would say a good middle ground is with the non-IPA Potter systems. They are completely freely programmable and simple to use, and yet they don’t have nearly the number of issues as Honeywell systems, because they are a smaller company that actually needs to care a little bit about their customers in order to survive.
Yep. We all have our own opinions and they all look good in different scenarios. That’s why they make different options.
The main thing I was getting at about these is that they seem to be WAY behind when it comes to getting new LED devices introduced that can certainly help get more sales. I’ve seen quite a few Autocall dealers and even surprisingly some Simplex installers starting to opt for Eaton/Wheelock Eluxa devices instead where TrueAlert ES devices are not needed for this exact reason.
I totally agree with you on this one too. All of the other brands have been proving that this design choice was not needed for good audio quality and was instead just pure laziness.
The only normal looking simplex devices are those 5900 series devices.
That’s super cool! It’s my first time ever seeing them being used in a real life application too. Johnson Controls really needs to step their game on coming out with more LED appliances. I imagine that it must be pretty annoying for them to have to deal with the constraints of xenon strobes. They probably loose some bids too because of the fact that the additional accommodations for the higher power draw of xenon strobes can be costly. Not to mention, their xenon strobes aren’t exactly known for being the most reliable. I’ve never heard of a strobe being known as unreliable until the TrueAlert strobes.
Well how about that…it wouldn’t surprise me if that’s the first system anyone’s found with those NAs, or at least one of the very few in North America (since Simplex has apparently marketed them a lot more outside the continent).
That’s what I thought of right away too, heh.
The UAE Has some of those devices, Specifically Dubai.
