Fire Alarms in Buildings (2.0)

Possibly a fs-250 or a small firefinder

Recently witnessed this at Boston City Hall. It has an older Notifier system from the early-mid 2000’s.

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You read right, the EST3 is now defunct… The EST3, along with some other components, have been removed and is now in my possession, the system replacement is still in progress and I’ve yet to get all the other components off this system…





Here is what the panel looked like when it was installed…



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Why best buy?? WHY???

Lol. Since this is New York and this apparently replaced an old Edwards system, I wouldn’t be surprised if there used to be bells there. That’s kind of an unfortunate replacement if it’s the case. My local Best Buy has a pretty boring system. It’s what I think is probably a Notifier NFS-320 system with Gentex Commander 3 and 4 devices. The one thing that I guess you could say is interesting about it is that it is one of very few Notifier systems in my area.

Nah, not in new york, it’s in New jersey.

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Sorry. I guess I probably shouldn’t have made assumptions based off of your name.

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It’s fine haha, FAILS!

That was funny tho ngl. Looly.

Family Wellness- Mandan, ND

This building was opened at the beginning of 2017. It is a building that contains fitness studios, classrooms, a basketball court gymnasium, a walking path, and a fairly extensive gym. It was built in a partnership between the local YMCA and one of the major healthcare providers in the area.

Panel: Siemens Cerberus PRO FC922

Notification Appliances: Siemens ZH-MC-R horn/strobes (including quite a few mounted on the ceiling). My local Siemens installer apparently liked to just buy all wall mount devices no matter where they would go, as I’ve seen it on many of their systems from this era. Luckily, they seem to have learned their lesson in recent years.

Pull Stations: Siemens HMS-S addressable pull stations

Detectors: Siemens OH921 smoke/heat multi criteria detectors, and probably some Siemens duct detectors of unknown models as well.

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I was thinking for a big ymca they would have a Voice Evac System, like my local one which is 2 floors and is a 4100+, I will soon show the system.

UPDATE: The panel has been replaced with an ES-50X, everything else remains the same

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My area had very few voice evac systems until recently, and now most new systems in decently sized buildings are voice evac. If the building was built today, it would almost certainly have voice evac. The YMCA in the neighboring city that was one of the co-funders of this newer one was probably built in the 70’s. It has remains of an old Edwards system with mechanical horns, but it was retrofitted at some point in the 2000’s with what I believe is a Simplex 4010 system with TrueAlert horn/strobes.

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Akron’s ex-Martin W. Essex Elementary School (currently used as an overflow annex for an elementary school on the north side of town alongside a pre-school). this building was constructed in 1966 to alleviate overcrowding at nearby Anne T. Case Elementary built a decade earlier (sadly demolished in 2017/8 for a newer “community learning center” as part of a 15 year modernization program).

FA system is a Simplex 4246–1 or 2 with 4027 10 inch single stroke bells and 4251–1 pull stations— interestingly mounted at what would be considered modern ADA heights—(a six inch 4017–62 class change bell can also be seen).

Intercom system is most likely a Rauland with Argos cabinets

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Local Theater/Bowling Alley/Hotel

Panel

Unsure. An older Fire-Lite addressable panel (running CLIP). Voice evacuation possibly? Or maybe just a tone.

Detectors

Fire-Lite SD-300 smoke detectors

Building is fully sprinklered

Pull Stations

Fire-Lite BG10LX’s

Fire-Lite BG12-LX’s

Notification Appliances

MASS ADA speaker strobes (most have been replaced)

MASS ADA remote strobes

SpectrAlert Classic horn strobes

L-Series (xenon) horn strobes

L-Series (LED) speaker strobes (replacing MASS ADA speaker strobes)

I honestly have no clue what panel this is. It’s an old building with older devices so I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a rarer old Fire-Lite panel. There is no annunciator or panel visible anywhere. I’ll take pictures of the devices next time I go.

Here are a couple photos of the system I took today:

Remote strobe in a restroom:

Horn/strobe and pull station in the lobby (sorry for the low quality image):

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Possible, but maybe not, in this Colombian Airport, the system is a Johnson Controls, it has the rebranded BG-12’s, And Specteralert Advances, I can see it from this video, and a very hard to see Johnson Controls BG-12, possibly.

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Hope you get a chance to save that entire system at some point given its age & rarity!

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