So I done some further research and apparently a company named ASAP did every fire alarm system for Mingo County Schools including Williamson PK-8 presumably.
I found their website and under their past projects I selected the drop-down for “Educational” and they said they had done some projects there.
That’s nice that they seem to stick with one company. That makes it a lot easier.
My school district has never been very consistent. They have always tended to just go with the cheapest option that seems to be decent. Throughout the 50’s-70’s, they used Standard Electric Time and Simplex systems. In the 80’s-90’s, they used mostly Cerberus Pyrotronics and Edwards/EST, with a couple of Simplex systems. In the 2000’s and 2010’s, they used almost exclusively Simplex, with one Siemens system. Nowadays, they have been going between Autocall and Siemens. The neighboring district also had a similar mix, but they have settled on Siemens for all of the new systems in the last 10-15 years.
Hard Rock Hotel - Daytona Beach, FL
Panel: Notifier NFS2-3030 with DVC
Pulls: NBG-12LXs
Detectors: FSP-851s
AVs: System Sensor SPSWLs, SPSWKs, and SWLs
Units
Detectors: FSP-851s on System Sensor B200S-LF sounder bases
AVs: SPWs
https://youtu.be/5YgJWepu1B4?si=pR9FyUtWTKGDUWO2 well… this is intresting… SK message on a Kidde Panel.
I find it interesting how many voice systems use recordings of Edwards horns. Some EST voice evac systems use a recording of an integrity, and I know that at least Kidde, Edwards, and Fike use Genesis recordings.
Notification Appliances:
Pulls:
Well, in 2019 that high school building was replaced with a nice new one that I appeared at today as K-O the Kangaroo as part of kicking off celebrating Stoughton’s tricentennial this year!
The new Stoughton High has a Mircom voice-evac system; I didn’t see the panel but there were a few annunciators around, including the model with a built-in microphone so faculty and firefighters can make on-the-spot announcements over the alarm system. The alarm signals are Wheelock E50 speaker/strobes, along with Wheelock Exceder ST remote strobes for additional visual coverage, and outside one of the entrances I saw a Wheelock ET70WP speaker/strobe. There are also Mircom MIX-2251B smoke detectors in all the appropriate areas, but I didn’t see any pull stations.
I was surprised to see they went the Mircom route with this school; I figured they would’ve stuck with Notifier, or go with EST the way numerous new schools in the Greater Boston area built since the late 1990s have (though the “new” Autocall has quickly been getting popular in that field here, too!)
Very Nice! Mircom is also starting to get common in NYC, and some parts of NJ, Do you have any idea what the tone & message is?
Yeah! The AHs are very odd though: heck if there were 7002Ts there, why not just replace them with ASes instead of separate AHs & RSSes? (unless perhaps this particular system was required to be able to do audible silence & no one knew that 2-wire Wheelock horn/strobes can do so as long as you use a sync module with them, & so they put in separately-wired remote horns & remote strobes instead. I suppose however that the RSSes could have come first, when there were still 7002Ts in those spots (probably to bring the candela rating up to code), & then at a later date the AHs replaced the 7002Ts as they already had visual signaling in place in the form of the RSSes & thus didn’t need ASes)
I was saying before the RSSes, and AHes, they had 7002ts, and where the RSSes are, were where the 2ts are.
Yes, I know that, but I still find it odd that they went with separate AHs & RSSes instead of ASes.
I thought it was Firecom that was common in NYC (kidding)
One of the buildings at my university recently got an upgrade. This building opened in 2002 and originally had a Cerberus Pyrotronics MXL with MSI-30BC pull stations (two-stage) and U-MMT horn/strobes:
The new system is a Siemens Desigo with XMS-2S pull stations and SC-HS-WR-F horn/strobes (my first time seeing either of these devices):
This is super cool. That’s my first time seeing these devices too. Because I’m in the U.S., I’ve only ever seen the Speaker/Strobes and the single stage XMS- devices. I’d say the biggest benefit with the XMS- series pull stations and -921 series detectors, as well as the X-series modules, is that they allow easyfor class X SLC loops, where there is an isolator between each device. That’s because each addressable device has a built in isolator. If that feature isn’t being used, than the installer can choose to use them in a different mode, where they are not polarity sensitive. Although it’s cool to see the new horn/strobes, I feel like it wasn’t really necessary to change those. Also, I really wonder how both the old, and the new horn/strobes behave in a two stage setting.
Yeah, same here, Ascend Devices in canada! Although I would’ve liked the whetherproof eluxas though.
Interestingly, I’m not convinced that this system is actually configured for two-stage operation; every other academic building on campus has a single-stage system, so it seems odd that this one would have a two-stage setup. I know of two other Siemens systems in my area—including the FireFinder at my workplace—that have two-stage pull stations but operate as single-stage systems. I have no idea what purpose the two-stage pull stations would serve in such an installation.
For two-stage operation, the horns would most likely pulse in 20BPM in first stage and switch to code-3 in second stage, while the strobes would flash continuously in both stages. I’m not particularly familiar with the Acend devices, so I’m not sure how exactly this would be achieved with the new horn/strobes.
I didn’t know that the ASCEND Series devicicals have respective trim plates.
Rather neat (especially the Cerberus Pyrotronics-branded MXL: you don’t see too many of those compared to the Siemens-branded ones (probably because the MXL was sold for a lot longer under Siemens (1998-2013) than CP (1992-1998). Any idea where it & the old devices might have gone to?).
Odd how the pulls are bilingual but the signals are not (unless Siemens for whatever reason doesn’t make bilingual trim plates for the ACEND-series).
I like the way that the panel and devices are mounted in this building. It is super unique and makes the devices stick out, but still looks relatively slick and matches the asthetic of the building (from what I can see).
