Oh, really? They replaced the main FACP but left everything else the way it was? Huh…
The EST Photo was from the 10th floor of this school which is the medical center, which is for the whole entire school district.
Firecom 8500 ai enhanced?
Oh…. I got a little to excited.
You noticed the upside-down Edwards/EST WG4-series speaker/strobe, right? (though how that happened & why there are two within mere feet of each other I have no idea)
I wanna say someone once debunked the FACP in that photo being an 8500, but I’m not sure.
Yes, that’s why I took a picture of it.
This past weekend me and a friend stayed at the Aloft Boston Seaport District hotel, built in 2015 with a Notifier voice-evacuation system. At the receptionists’ desk I saw something resembling an FDU-80 annunciator, but I’m sure the system itself is an NFS2-3030, being a high-rise hotel. The alarm signals are SpectrAlert Advance SPSV speaker/strobes in red, along with FSP-851 smoke detectors and NBG-12LX pull stations. The hotel room me and my friend stayed in had a white SP speaker and a FSP-951 detector on sounder base, obviously replacing an -851 but using the same base.
Photos From My Vacation:
I recently went on a vacation, and I took plenty of photos. These are the ones that contain fire alarms. Please excuse the bad quality of many of them. I’ll try to organize them by the place that I took the photos in.
Bismarck Municipal Airport Terminal- Bismarck, ND:
This airport terminal was opened in 2005, and has a Simplex 4100U voice evac system. The system was likely put to use a couple weeks ago, when the airport received a (false) bomb threat, and the terminal had to be evacuated.
Airbus A320-214 (N199NV):
Charles L. Williams Passenger Terminal at Mesa Gateway Airport- Mesa, AZ:
This airport seems to have an odd mixture of systems. Most of the airport has an EST3 system, with most parts having mass notification capabilities. Oddly, the ticketing and bag check area has an addressable Fire-Lite system.
As you can see in the photo below, the area with the Fire-Lite system also had this addressable Simplex QuickAlarm near one of the entrances. It was actually the only Simplex device I saw in Arizona. It wasn’t polling. Maybe that area used to have a 4010 system or something?
Here is the EST3 system that covers most of the airport:
There were three distinct areas. The oldest area had these devices:
If you can’t tell, the device on the left is labeled “ALERT”, and the device on the right is labeled “FIRE”. Some places had remote strobes with “FIRE” lettering in place of the speaker/strobes. The wall mounted devices were white speaker/strobes with “FIRE” lettering on top of amber strobe expansion plates with “ALERT” lettering.
The “middle-aged(?)” area had modern EST SIGA-PD detectors, with mostly just the “FIRE” marked devices that can be seen in the older section. The only “ALERT” device I saw was this one:
The newest area had Edwards SIGA-PD detectors and these speaker/strobes:
Holiday Inn Club Vacations Resort- Scottsdale, AZ:
This resort has 17 buildings, with 1-4 and 6-14 being suite buildings. All of the suites are only accessible from the outside. The only notification appliances other than sounder bases are in handicap suites and the common-area buildings. The resort has a Siemens Modular network. There is an SSD-C annunciator at the front desk in the lobby building that is presumably monitoring the entire network. Here are the notification appliances in the common-area buildings:
They have Siemens FDO421 detectors
This device in the arcade was blocked by this machine, even though the picture may not fully show it:
Interestingly, it was set to 110CD even though the room isn’t that big, and there are other devices in there.
Some suites have FDOOT441/OOH941 multi criteria fire detectors on ABHW-4S low frequency sounder bases. The other suites have FDO421/OP921 smoke detectors on the same sounder bases. The handicap suites have the same devices, but with ZR-HMC-W remote strobes. Here’s what my suite in building #14 had:
Every building with a sprinkler system that I saw in the Phoenix area had a setup similar to this on the outside, with a 120v sprinkler bell and clear signage near the FDC, and signage for the FACP room:
I think this is a very good idea to help the FD work as efficiently as possible. If an annunciator was closer to where the FD would arrive, the door to access that would be marked with a sign, saying “FAAP”.
Here’s the one that was on my building:
As you can see, the bell is falling off of the wall.
WestWorld- Scottsdale, AZ:
This event area had two buildings with fire alarm systems that I saw. They were both Edwards/EST systems. The Tony Nelssen Equestrian Center has an EST4 system, and the Multi-Use Tent has what is most likely an EST3 system. Here are some photos:
Tony Nelssen Equestrian Center:
Multi-Use Tent:
Yard House- Phoenix, AZ:
This was a restaurant in a strip mall that has a Notifier system. This was the only business that I saw that didn’t have System Sensor notification appliances. This is the first N-ANN80-W I’ve ever seen. The annunciator showed an invalid reply trouble for the kitchen pull station. It was acknowledged.
Here is a concealite emergency light:
Raising Cane’s Chicken Fingers- Scottsdale, AZ:
This restaurant appears to have a DMP system. I didn’t see any notification appliances or pull stations, so it’s likely just for sprinkler and/or kitchen hood suppression monitoring. Concerningly, the annunciator screen showed an alarm even though the LEDs were normal, and the piezo was silent. I don’t know anything about DMP systems, but does this mean the system is not working properly?
Barro’s Pizza- Scottsdale, AZ:
This was a small restaurant in a strip mall. I didn’t see any devices other than notification applications, so I have no idea what the system is. It has system sensor PC2R horn/strobes, and SCR remote strobes.
Petco- Scottsdale, AZ:
This was a pretty basic Bosch system with Wheelock AS and RSS devices of both the ceiling and wall mounted varieties. Interestingly, it had Fire-Lite BG-12 pull stations. That Radionics keypad in the photo is for the security portion of the system. There was a red Bosch fire alarm keypad around the corner for the fire alarm portion of the system.
Target- Scottsdale, AZ:
This store appears to have recently received a system upgrade. It appears to be a Fire-Lite ES- series system. They have System Sensor PC2WL and SCWL devices.
Bam Kazam- Scottsdale, AZ:
This place is an interesting amusement attraction. It has a Potter IPA-60 panel with an EVAX-25,50, or 100 voice evac panel. This is a fairly new system with a PAD-100 pull station, and a PAD-100 or 200 smoke detector near the panel. Other than those two devices, the only other initiation devices on the system are the sprinkler flow switches. They use System Sensor SPSWL and SPSCWL speaker/strobes, and SCWL remote strobes.
Superstition Springs Center- Mesa, AZ:
This is a decently sized mall with quite an odd system. It has an addressable Notifier detector at the entrance of every store, but that’s all I saw. They were polling. I didn’t see any pull stations, notification appliances, or annunciators anywhere. It is possible that there are some audible notification appliances hiding in the ceiling, though, as it is a “mesh/grate” type ceiling that would let sound through.
Here is a newer FSP-851 detector I saw:
This photo shows an interesting speaker on the ceiling, and an older detector in the background near the exit sign:
Those speakers can be found throughout the mall playing background music, so it’s entirely possible that they are doubling as fire alarm speakers.
This isn’t from my vacation, but below is a photo that I took at a doctor’s office. It has a Siemens Cerberus PRO FC901 50 point addressable system.
Sorry for the late reply lol. I didn’t read this until now. This sounds very similar to this system. I also saw a huge Simplex network with devices from the 80s-2010s at the Hilton Hawaiian Village. I guess keeping outdated Simplex systems in service, or making as minor of upgrades as possible is just a Hilton thing.
@ScriptedStarlight, is this an interesting EVAX system or what?
how did you know it was a firelite addressable system? did the pulls show a fire lite logo or did you only base it off the detector style
There were Fire-Lite BG-12LX pull stations, and there was an ANN-80 annunciator at the front entrance. I should’ve mentioned that.
That first combo is quite common, while the second is not, but it’s also quite interesting.
It’s probably a replacement for a failed 4903 combo. There’s a lot of 4903 combos there
New Building For A Burger Place Near My HS That Is Getting Its Old Location Demo’d As We Speak
Previous building (which isn’t too far from the new location - literally only like under 50 ft away lol) didn’t have an FA system, but the new location has a DMP system with SS LED L-Series strobes.
Overall setup. DMP station + annunciator, and LED L-Series.
Station up-close.
Annunciator up-close.
NA up-close.
Not pictured is what is presumably an outdoor-rated LED L-Series on the external walls of the building
I’m glad they didn’t go with a Silent Knight system. It’s cool to see a new DMP system.
Yeah right? I’ve seen a million Silent Knight systems, most of which have went to s**t because of cheap ahh power supplies.