Fire Alarms in Buildings (2.0)

Also, blank simplex devices also exist.

You can’t see it very clearly in this picture, but the devices were clearly painted. On some devices there was paint on the strobes, and one device had paint almost completely covering up the grille of the speaker.

Uh, no? I’m pretty sure Disney’s devices were painted by them to match whatever wall they’re on, & you’re not supposed to paint them in any case.

Yes, but “FIRE”-branded devices are otherwise supposed to be used, & in this case that’s, well, not the case since the fire lettering was painted over.

Oh? Well that’s honestly even worse than just painting over the fire lettering then (& goes to show why you’re not supposed to paint life safety devices).

honestly, i didnt know they were painted at all! I thought they were custom made from wheelock, or simplex, thanks for the fun fact!

I am very curious about that radionics system, that is something very unique. I might go digging for what it is because that is pretty cool

Edit: Well that was easy Website the image is from - Data sheet

Very interesting fire alarm system, it’s pretty big for its style. Usually these kinds of systems are small

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It is quite a large cabinet, it might be due to the fact that it’s very expandable. There was a conventional BG12-L as the pull station, i’m guessing there was a monitor module somewhere since this seems to be an addressable system.

There is no code requirement for this. There are some related requirements that do exist: non-fire signals cannot read “FIRE,” and MNS signals must read “ALERT” (but they are also permitted to be unmarked if they are combo fire/MNS).

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Personally , if I was planning a voice evac system for a building, I would use “ALERT” or unmarked devices, even if it’s not planned to be used as a MNS. This would be a very good future proofing step that wouldn’t cost any money, as it would allow the devices to be used for any purpose that becomes necessary in the future.

Seconded on unmarked devices in typical North American buildings – it means you can use them for CO and fuel gas alerting service with cadenced tones even if you don’t have a full EVACS or MNS at hand. That said, if you have an all-electric building with no enclosed garage space attached, no fuel-powered vehicles (ice rink maintainers, fuel-powered forklifts, etc), and no future MNS potential (for say ammonia refrigerant leakage or storm notification), you could get away with FIRE labeled devices.

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Sure, there may be no requirement, but most systems use them anyway, & this system would likely be no exception if someone didn’t paint its NAs!

Various equipment at Carlsbad Caverns










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Good finds! Them original SpectrAlert speaker/strobes sure are rare to find! (redundant I know, but I have no clue how better to phrase this sentence, heh)







somewhere, we should all know.

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Those circle speaker strobes look very interesting. I never knew Firecom made those.

I think they were probably special ordered from Wheelock. I’m interested what they will do when it comes time to replace one of those that wraps around a pole.

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Yeah, especially considering the E90 (which is what those speaker/strobes are at their core) isn’t made anymore.

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Im pretty sure the flat ones would get replaced by the wall eluxas, or the ceiling eluxas with custom wall lettering, for the curved e90 stuff, i guess they would redo the pole, or just rewire the conduit to a new backbox that supports the new eluxa?

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Location: Costco, Indianapolis, IN.
Panel: Fire Lite ES-200X
NAs: SpectrAlert Advance P2Rs and SCRHs (SCRHs not pictured)
Pulls: Fire Lite BG-12
Additional info: there are a few System Sensor duct smoke detector key switches scattered across the building as well.

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What is the AFP-100 used for?

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I don’t exactly know what it’s used for.