Fire Alarms in Buildings (2.0)

Yeah! I know that building used to be the old library, and then they renovated it sometime in the 2000s into science labs and classrooms so it does make sense. I know the student center (gymnasium and cafeteria building) is going under a big renovation in the next few years! I’m wondering what they’d do with that. That’s an old Simplex 4002 system with bells. I could see it being upgraded to a speaker/strobe system.

A university near me replaced thier Simplex Truealert horn/strobes with Truealert speaker/strobes. The panel is a Simplex 4100u.

Canada Science and Technology Museum
Panel: Simplex 4100U with graphic annunciator
Pulls: Newer break-glass T-bars with bilingual lettering
Signals: Simplex http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/yy322/Chupacabra_1/Fire%20Alarms/SANY0484https://cdn.thefirepanel.com/legacy/3092_6fd21bb48ddcf136c9e6c757ef70e19b.jpg bells with red Wheelock WST strobes; strangely enough, all wall-mounted WST strobes (almost all installed below a bell) have red lenses while ceiling-mounted ones (without bells) have white lenses. There were also a few newer http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/yy322/Chupacabra_1/Fire%20Alarms/IMG_3014_zps22dd79d8https://cdn.thefirepanel.com/legacy/3092_6fd21bb48ddcf136c9e6c757ef70e19b.jpg Simplex bells with Wheelock RSS strobes, one http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/yy322/Chupacabra_1/Fire%20Alarms/IMG_2996_zps89277922https://cdn.thefirepanel.com/legacy/3092_6fd21bb48ddcf136c9e6c757ef70e19b.jpg Simplex bell with a badly-painted Simplex strobe and one lone very rare red-lensed FOS (Faraday) http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/yy322/Chupacabra_1/Fire%20Alarms/IMG_3013_zps9734b61bhttps://cdn.thefirepanel.com/legacy/3092_6fd21bb48ddcf136c9e6c757ef70e19b.jpg strobe.
Smokes: TrueAlarms

The LaQuinta hotel that i stayed in has these alarms

Gentex GMH
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Fire Alarm Horn
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Notifier BG 12 (this one is fire lite)
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The Rest of the Alarms

Notifier BG 8
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System Sensor 2400
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System Sensor i3
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I wonder who made the picture of the BG-8… could you give him some credit?

By the way, this topic has 666 posts…weird.

I’m on vacation now and saw something a bit uncommon.


A panel in a panel. I have more, not of the panel but of the system if anyone is interested.

Interesting upgrade! I can see they are being pretty resourceful in their upgrading (using the existing cabinet to lock out the keypad).

It’s also a good idea to have a warning sign for those who desire to tamper with the equipment ($500 fine). Most panels should have that sign right on them.

Days Inn Hotel and Conference Center, La Crosse, Wi.

Unknown panel
•Mainly Pyr-A-Larm 6"beige bells,
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–there are a couple of Edwards 438D-6N5-Rs also.
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•No connected smokes, just a combination of Kidde AC powered alarms, FireX 0462s and Kidde Micro Profile battery alarms.
•Older Pyrotronics pulls.
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That pull station looks very interesting!

Well, the Shaw’s supermarket near my college doesn’t have a Simplex system anymore. The 2001 panel cabinet is still there but gutted, and next to it is a Fire-Lite panel of some kind (it might be an MS-9200, but I didn’t get a good look.) All the old stuff from the Simplex system is still there, including the SAE electronic horns/AV32 strobe plates.

Two stores in the same plaza also had an upgrade of sorts. They initially had Edwards 892-series horn/strobes (probably electronic) and 270-SPO pull stations. (They still have remote 892-style strobes outside.) The alarms were replaced with Wheelock Exceder horn/strobes, and the pulls were replaced with Mircom-style dual-action T-bars.

My K-7 school:

Panel/Annunciators:

Simplex 4002 located in electrical closet. Simplex 4602 annunciator package located in main entrance vestibule. Simplex RCU/SCU in west entrance vestibule. The signal coding was continuous.

Smokes:
A combination of Simplex TrueAlarms, Simplex 2098-9110 ionization detectors, and some type of System Sensor detector (only 2 of them, 1 in a hallway and 1 in the computer lab). There are also 4255 heat detectors in the boiler and electrical rooms, medical room, library, gym, gym storage room, change rooms, bathrooms, and the music room.

Pull Stations:

The main pulls are Simplex MS-301Cs. There are a few remnants from the original school building, namely 2 OLD Edwards 270-spo non-coded pulls (located in the gym and by the old stairwell, now the library’s resource room!). The pull in the gym has a Simplex wire cover.

Notification Appliances:

The main signals used throughout the school are the Simplex 2901-9722s pictured in El Chupacabra’s post. There are also 3 Simplex 2901-9333’s outside, as well as an unmarked 10 inch bell. In the gym, a Notifier 10 inch bell replaces an old 2901-9722.

Random Fact:

In the gym, there is an old Edwards Adaptabuzzer from the original school building! (Which unfortunately doesn’t work.)

I was at a vocational services office in Boston today, being interviewed for a program I might be working with. The building has an EST system of some sort, probably from the late 1990s or early 2000s. The alarms are mostly EST Integrity horn/strobes, and the pulls are 270-SPOs (with the Edwards “shield” logo on them; IDK if they are addressable, probably not.) A couple of stores housed in this same building have Genesis horn/strobes.

I also stopped by a Party City store while I was in Boston. I was surprised by what the building had: a vintage Simplex system! Those are becoming scarce around the Boston area (particularly as Simplex has been replacing a number of them across the city.) The system looked like it was from the early 1970s. The alarms appeared to be Simplex 4050 or 4051 horns, but they were on Space Age AV32 light plates! (no “FIRE” lettering) Usually when I see a Simplex system with older audible/visual alarms, they use Simplex’s own visual signals (the 4050-80 or 2903-series retrofit plates). The pulls were old Simplex 4251-series Chevrons. At another entrance to the same building, I could see an old gray Simplex annunciator with the small rectangular indicator lamps, like the kind seen on 4207, 4208 and early 2001 systems. I am betting the panel was a Simplex 4208, if it wasn’t replaced yet.

For a few years, my mom worked at our local thrift store/food bank. They have a Simplex 4008. There are some sort of addressable heat detector throughout the building (but no smokes), as well as single-action 4099 pull stations. The N/As are Simplex TrueAlert Multitone horn/strobes (apparently set to Canadian Horn).

My mother and I were just at the local (and recently opened) Target, and they have white Spectralert Advance horn-only units, no strobes. No idea what else they have there since it it’s part of a larger mall. The Zellers that used to be there had Faraday 10" bells, and the rest of the building has an old MXL system with U-MMT mini-horns.

That Target doesn’t have remote strobes on the ceiling? My local Target (not part of a mall) has red Wheelock NHs on the support beams and white Wheelock RSSs on the ceiling.

Strobes aren’t widely used in Canada, where BradH lives.

Tonight I was at a Halloween party at the Knights of Columbus building in Whitman, MA. They have an older fire alarm system from the 1980s that I was kinda surprised to see. It wasn’t anything too special though; the alarms were Wheelock 34T horns, the pulls were Edwards “Local Alarm” 270-SPOs and they also had Chemtronics metal 500-series heat detectors on the ceilings. It was probably a small Fire-Lite system or something.
I was also kind of surprised by the lack of visual signals. You’d think if they were going with Wheelock signals, they’d either have used 7002Ts, or even install the 34Ts on AV32 light plates…

Sobeys grocery store in Gimli, MB

Mircom FX-2000 series panel. No visible smoke or heat detectors, but there is a sprinkler system that is most likely tied into the fire alarm system, since there are no exterior sprinkler bells. There are Mircom MS-401AD pull stations, and for NAs there are System Sensor SpectrAlert Advance HRA horns.

Holiday Inn Airport West Winnipeg

The main panel is an old Edwards panel of some sort; probably a 6500. From what I remember, there were no smoke or heat detectors. There was a sprinkler system, but there is a sprinkler bell on the front of the building. I do not think the Kidde smoke detectors in the rooms are connected to the fire alarm system. There are Edwards 270-SPO two-stage pull stations. For N/As, there are mainly Edwards 10 inch Adaptabels mounted upside-down (although some areas have Edwards GS 10 inch bells mounted behind metal grilles).

Manitoba Museum

Probably another Edwards 6500. Again, no automatic devices. Edwards two-stage manual pull stations. There are Edwards 10 inch Adaptabels in the front area mounted behind metal grilles with white EST Integrity strobes mounted in front of the grille. The other bells are Edwards GS.

South Station in Boston, MA had a few updates. In the main lobby and the main entrance area, the alarm signals are now mostly Wheelock STH-15S loudspeakers with RSS strobes next to them. Outside at the train station platform area, they now have Wheelock ET70WP speaker/strobes. But the food court, ticket office and other areas still have the older Wheelock ET speaker/strobes (with the 7002T-style strobe on top), and the temporary mens’ room has Wheelock E70 speaker/strobes, along with a couple of VA4 speaker/strobes.
But yesterday, the electrical closet was open and I could see the fire alarm panels in it. The big surprise is, the station now has a SIMPLEX system! There was a 4100U voice-evacuation panel, along with a few other auxiliary and transponder panels. That really surprised me, because the initiating devices from the previous Kidde system are still intact (those black-and-red pull stations rebranded by Kidde, older Adaemco/Pyrotector smoke detectors, etc.), though I did see a Simplex 2098-9808 alarm indicator above an office door.
With the renovations going on in some areas of the station, I wouldn’t be surprised if some of Simplex’s trademarks begin to show up around the place (like TrueAlarm smoke detectors or their T-bar pull stations), even if they continue using Wheelock speaker/strobes (I am pretty sure Simplex installed those new speaker/strobes I mentioned.)

And they also had a Simplex 6351 master time panel for controlling that large old clock in the main lobby:

The interesting thing is, this is actually a vintage Simplex clock! Maybe that’s why.