You know why not? I have an old Wheelock system from the 90s you guys may like. I have to get home first to edit the photos.
My dad works at a Small Business that is a General Contractor. With a small office building. They converted part of their garage to more offices. (they have 17) I recommended that they install a fire alarm system. (my dad is one of the 4 owners) Now they have Simplex TrueAlert Horn/strobes in the Garage, hallways, large rooms, and main lobby. In the offices, bathrooms, break rooms,and various small rooms the have Simplex TrueAlert Remote Strobes. The pulls are Simplex Dual Action Pulls. The smokes are the basic photoelectric simplex ones. In the Garage and electrical room are Simplex Heat Detectors. The panel is a Simplex 4010.
Yikes… did you recommend Simplex?
May I ask what’s the damages? :S
look what I found at a old hospital. They had a 4100es with true alert horn strobes that chime you see there and true alert speaker strobes. Sorry could not resize right now :S
Looks like at one time, that hospital just had those chimes and strobes on a Simplex 2001 system or something, then they upgraded some areas. Hospitals can be like that, from what I’ve seen. The hospital I used to work at had a similar mix, mainly with 4903 speaker/strobes and old LifeAlarm speakers on 2903 light plates, along with a few LifeAlarms on 4903 light plates, Space Age 2DCD horns on AV32 light plates and TrueAlert horn/strobes, along with the alarm tones sounding over the intercom. They had a bunch of Simplex panels tied into each other (some in different areas of the hospital), including some 4100-series panels (wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a 4100ES in there by now), at least one 4010 or 4020, even a few 2001s still in use! There are a mix of conventional and addressable initiating devices throughout the hospital (LOTS of TrueAlarm smoke detectors!) The hospital was originally built in the 1930s, expanded in the 1950s and 1980s, and parts have since been renovated.
I remember when I heard it go off, they were all doing chiming sounds (the LifeAlarm speaker/lights and intercom speakers in those areas did a 2001 chime, and I remember the emergency wing’s 4903s doing a Temporal version of the old 4100 chime. I can safely say I preferred the 4903 strobes over the 2903 light plates!
Here’s the fire alarm system in one of the buildings at the Milwaukee County Zoo.
Simplex 9833 and 2904
Simplex 2903+2901-9833
Strange Simplex 4001 with a different front door design than most.
Now THAT’S an early Simplex 4001 panel, apparently from the mid-1980s. The 4001 came out in 1985 and was discontinued in 1994. I think by 1988, they removed the black stripe from the door. I have a 4001 panel that has a manufacturing date of 1988 on it (I mostly display it as a decoration, as I don’t have the stuff to power it up, plus I only got it for $40 a couple years ago!)
This is the Alarm and pull station found throughout my old K-8 school. Built in the 1950’s. I teach there now. These suckers are Loud!
I saw the BEST retrofit install ever. Older school in Boise. So it has 2099 T-bars and Whellock E70? Speaker strobes. Simplex 4100U Panel. The Pulls were perfectly covered by stopper IIs. They had a 4010 sized metal plate where the annuciator was. Truealarms smokes and some of the flat base tiny detector Simplex smokes. Also a Large Simplex Graphic annuciator.
BTW:
What is a PIV trouble?
A PIV is a supervisory signal, not a trouble. The system has 2 PIV supervisory messages and 2 trouble messages.
The PIV is a post indicator valve. It’s a supervisory switch at the main control valve for a sprinkler system, often it’s outside of the building between the city water connection and the fire alarm sprinkler system, but can also be inside in a basement or fire pump room somewhere. It sets off a supervisory signal when the valve is closed, because the sprinkler system effectively has no connection to a water source anymore. Normally it’s closed when the sprinkler guys are doing testing or maintenance.
There’s other types of valves besides a PIV, like an OS&Y valve, but all serve the same basic purpose.
Don’t forget butterfly valves and zone controls!
Thanks. They must have been doing some work. Simplex was there.
This morning, I was at a local building with a pretty eclectic mix of brands in its system. The panel appears to be an EST2; the manual stations are two-stage 2099-series T-bars with bilingual lettering (I also saw one break-glass 4251-series station with French lettering), while the signals are rare 6” Johnson Controls bells, probably installed as part of the building’s original system in 1980. Unsurprisingly, the smoke detectors are EST SIGA models.
Today I did a K-O mascot gig for a Christmas party at the Quincy Lodge of Elks in Quincy, MA (duh). They have a Silent Knight IFP-100 system with an auxiliary voice-evac panel (also Silent Knight.) What made this system interesting to me was how it had Gentex SSPKWLP speaker/strobes! I had never seen one in person before. They looked a lot like some kind of foreign fire alarm signal to me. The restrooms and the room I changed in and out of costume in had remote Gentex Commander strobes.
Not surprisingly, the initiating devices consisted of addressable Silent Knight-branded BG-12 pulls and 2151 smoke detectors; typical Honeywell stuff.
Been in quite a few buildings recently.
The other day I was at Bob Roncker’s Running Spot. They had System Sensor 100 Series smokes (With thermistors), System Sensor P241575’s, Silent Knight cast-iron single action pull stations, and a Silent Knight 5207 panel.
My local library has an addressable Notifier system. It consists of FSP-751 smokes, Gentex Commander 1’s (red horn strobes and strobes), older NBG-12LX’s, and a Notifier LCD-80 annunciator. I like this system.
A Super 8 motel across the exit from me has (As far as I know of) a System Sensor i3, a Fenwal/FCI smoke detector, Notifier LNG-1R’s, a few BG-12’s, Wheelock 10" bells, and some older Notifier Emhart KMS-10-24 bells. The panel is a Cerberus Pyrotronics SXL-EX.
A School/Church in Burlington has a very basic Notifier system. There are System Sensor 1400 smokes, LNG-1R’s, GX-90-S’s, GXS’s, and an LCD-80 annunciator.

Not surprisingly, the initiating devices consisted of addressable Silent Knight-branded BG-12 pulls and 2151 smoke detectors; typical Honeywell stuff.
The smokes were probably addressable SK-PHOTOs rather than 2151s, if the panel has a firmware high enough to support SK devices as well as SD devices.
What does K-O mean?
Also, 4j25, they seem to like LNG-1Rs where you live! I’ve never seen one in person.
What does K-O mean?
K-O is the name of my mascot alter-ego. He’s a kangaroo, and is the mascot for a local minor league baseball team. I also perform him at events during the off-season, like this one. They named him K-O due to the whole “boxing kangaroo” bit (as in knock-out.)
And the detectors may have been SK-PHOTOs. I just know they appeared to be System Sensor 2151s rebranded by Silent Knight.
Ah, cool! I knew that you had other suits/mascots, but I didn’t know about that one.
You probably don’t remember, but did the detectors happen to have a larger flat portion on the bottom like older System Sensor detectors or smaller like newer ones?
Here’s a couple of photos illustrating what I mean…
(Jared’s photo)
(System Sensor’s photo)
I believe they were like in the second photo.