Yeah, LNG-1R’s are EXTREMELY common in my area. I’ll be sure to add more buildings soon. (Maybe tonight!)
Is there a conventional smoke that looks like the second one you posted?
Seems like they liked Notifier where you live… About the oldest pull stations I’ve seen here in San Antonio are 4251-30s, most likely because anything older didn’t have a fire alarm system. Lots of older buildings here in SA just have smoke alarms. Case in point, my doctor’s office was built probably built around the late 70s or early 80s, which is about the cutoff point, and they only have smoke alarms in the examination rooms.
Anyway…
Yes, the 2151 that System Sensor makes today uses pretty much the same exterior as their addressable detectors. The only reason I don’t see those much either is that most new installs for small buildings here are addressable Fire-Lite or Silent Knight systems. If there are conventional systems, they’ll use i3s (which are pretty uncommon here, too.)
San Antonio has a lot of addressable systems… mostly Notifier, EST, Simplex and Siemens/CP for large jobs, and Fire-Lite or SK for smaller jobs.
The church that my grandma goes to has 4251-30s and 4051/4050-85 horn/light assemblies. The panel is most likely a 2001, though I haven’t seen it since it’s tucked away in a mechanical room. It’s got a parish hall adjacent to it which has a CP MXL with CP pulls and old Gentex speaker-strobes. It’s also got a private school, which has, most likely, a MS-9600UDLS judging from the BG-12LXs and System Sensor Spectralert Advances.
Thanks for clarifying about the smoke.
May as well post some more buildings!
Joseph Beth Bookstore at Crestview Hills Mall has an Edwards FireShield system, with an FSAT3 annunciator, along with Potter RMS-1T-LP dual action cast-iron pull stations and Potter/Amseco Select-A-Horn/Strobes. They also have a sprinkler alarm outside, which is a Wheelock MT (Horizontal strobe) on a Potter sprinkler alarm sign. This is next to an AS, which is outside just about every other store in the complex.
This one will be short. Most of the Wal-Marts near me have a Bosch/Radionics system with SpectrAlert Classic or Advanced N/A’s, almost always ceiling mounted.
My local Volunteer Fire Station has a Silent Knight system. The panel is a Silent Knight SK-5208. The only initiation devices I have seen are some normal old heat detectors. (Probably Chemtronics or Edwards.) The N/A’s are Commander 3’s.
Duke Energy Convention Center, which is downtown in Cincinnati, is a HUGE building, and you’d expect it to have speaker strobes. Instead it has horn strobes. The main N/A’s are Edwards Genesis white horn strobes, most rebranded by ADT, some with FIRE lettering and some without. There are also white Gentex strobes mounted by some fire doors. The initiation devices are Edwards 278 dual action style pulls, with key reset, also rebranded by ADT. As far as I know, there are no smokes whatsoever.
A nursing home in Montgomery called Montgomery Care Center has an extremely rare system, and a very cool one at that. And for such a small building, it has quite a variety. Anyways, the panel is a Fire-Lite Sensiscan 2000. The notification appliances are Federal Signal Vibratone 450D’s, with Federal Signal VALS strobes. There are also Space Age Electronics V-33’s, although I’m not sure if they are still used. They have both a red body and red lens. Upon further investigation of one of the photos I took, they may even be Gaurdian lights. Anyways, now for the initiation devices. First off, the main pullstations were Autocall 4015’s. There was also a Mircom blue emergency pullstation. The smokes were System Sensor 1400’s.
Anyways, I think that’s enough for now. If you’d like more, just ask! I’ve got plenty more to share.
That system sounds a lot like one I had seen when I was a kid. It was a Federal building that was occupied by a post office and some government offices. They had 450D horns with V33s next to them with the same Autocall pulls. It remains the only place I’ve ever seen those pulls.
I can name a few places I’ve seen those, including the Care Center, Wright Patterson AFB, and I think one other place, I can’t put my finger on it though.
More like cast aluminum… iron is much, much more dense than aluminum, and is almost never used anymore, having been replaced by steel, aluminum, or other alloys.
My old private lesson teacher had 2WTA detectors in her parents’ house, probably tied to their security system. To be honest, I think that’s better than interconnected detectors…
Time for another building! There’s a hotel in Covington that has a 4100/4100U system (I think, it may be Notifier), with TrueAlert red wall mount speaker strobes, Wheelock ET-1010-WS-24 speaker strobes (The ones with the 7002T style strobe), and for the initiation devices there are System Sensor 2300’s, System Sensor 1400’s, TrueAlarms, and LNG-1R’s, most with phone jacks built into them.
The hotel next door has a similar system, only this one is probably a Notifier system, given that the N/A’s are Gentex SPK’s, and the initiation devices are System Sensor 2400’s and more LNG-1R’s.
A motel in Newport has a Federal Signal System with a variety of alarms. There’s a little Federal Signal Annunciator, ADT 5060 pullstations, ESL 611UT smoke and heat detectors, an i3, an ESL 400 series smoke, and System Sensor MASS241575ADA’s as the signals.
This next system is nowhere near me, yet i go there quite often.
A condo that we stay in at Myrtle Beach has a Simplex 4005 panel. The N/A’s consist of Simplex 2901-9833’s, a 2901-9038, 4903 horn onlys, and System Sensor HR’s. There are no strobes. The pulls are one 2099-9103, 2099 single action pulls, and BG-12’s. The smokes are one ESL smoke above the elevator and 5600 heat detectors above each elevator.
Those A*T pulls were actually 5050-001 models. And while I’m here I will say that the Independence community center has Truealerts,Edwards lamps and 2099 tbars.
Very strange system, usually found in churches. National time 641s and pyrotechnics horn strobes
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Brockton’s public school system opened up a new registration center in a building across the street from the main office (Simplex 4207 system from 1977 that I’ve already mentioned). This building used to be a bank, and was built in the '80s, but was renovated a few years back.
The panel is a Simplex 4008 addressable system (never saw one of those before), with a Fire-Lite Fire-Watch dialer panel of some sort (probably a 411 UDAC.) Alarms are TrueAlert horn/strobes (probably 4906-9127s), and I also saw a remote TrueAlert strobe in one office. Pulls are 4099-9003 dual-action T-bars, not surprisingly, and the only smoke detector I saw was a TrueAlarm (probably a 4098-9714 photoelectric head on a -9792 base) installed near the panel (I believe the rest of the building had a sprinkler system and possibly some duct detectors as well.)
So at least this new office has something in common with the main school central office: they both have Simplex fire alarm systems, except this one is much newer (maybe five, six years old.)
A very strange setup at a bank I went to… If someone can tell me what these 2 different color strobes are next to each other, also there is a green push station and green stopper.
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At the time, I did not know not to take pictures in banks therefore I did not snap a pic of the station
The green button probably drops out mag locks which are securing the door so you can exit in a case of an emergency. Kind of a bypass to the access control system.
The green push station is part of the access control system. It provides the ability to override an electrical locking mechanism on a door in case the REX (request to exit) equipment on the security or dedicated access control panel fails to operate, whether due to a power failure, panel failure, or other events.
The two System Sensor PS424 strobes are mounted on System Sensor SSK451 remote detector test plates. The strobes have small metal clips that are designed to attach to the front of a PA400 horn, but this station also provides contacts for these pins so that a strobe can be attached. Here is the data sheet is=f you are curious: System Sensor | Honeywell Building Technologies
A system sensor mass with a vertical strobe which is green no fire lettering and the horn is white at a meijer and some kind of old lsm strobe located about 5 feet off the ground on a wall in a gym. Also a wheelock 30-20 horn located higher 10 yards away
That’s a System Sensor PS424 strobe on a System Sensor PA400 horn, if you are curious.
A school not far from us has a quite unique system. It has a Simplex 4100 panel in an electrical room in the old wing (whoever installed it was an ametuer since it was installed very very close to the floor and was only held in with 3 screws), and a 4207 panel was visible in the office hooked onto a cinder block wall. The old wing had Simplex chevrons with cream colored handles (and to my knowledge, they were installed around 1961. The other pulls were Simplex 4251-30s in some halls and in all the original wings classrooms, and a couple Simplex 4251-40 pulls in the Gymnasium, And a few Simplex 2099s were the new wing is, which was built around 1995. The signals are the interesting part. The original wing still has the Simplex 4037s (Gray), but on the ceiling, there is Simplex 2904s (red) and Some Simplex 2903s with 2901-9833s on the ceiling, with Tan backboxes. There is a few Simplex 4255 heats and Some 2098s whiffle balls in the hall. The restrooms have Simplex TrueAlert Horn/Strobes on the ceiling, with some Chemotronics heat detectors. In the classrooms, there are Simplex 2903-9101s with 2901-9833s.
Those two odd looking horn/strobes with the key locks are actually duct detector alarms. In buildings required to have duct detectors but not large enough for a full fire alarm system, they use those to indicate a detector going into alarm. The key switch is used to remotely test the duct detector.
System Sensor has a newer version of that device:
They had a small update at South Station in Boston: the Kidde pulls outside the train platform area (at the doors that go into the main station concourse) were all replaced with Sigcom T-bar pulls rebranded by Simplex. They do seem to match now with the alarm signals on the platform area (Wheelock ET70WP speaker/strobes that were installed around the time the Kidde system was upgraded to a Simplex 4100U.)
I also passed through Boston University, and it seems the campus is mostly keen on using FCI systems. The library/student union building had a somewhat interesting setup (I stopped here for a bit for directions to my destination.) The main alarms appear to be newer Vibratone 450 horns (probably FCI HDs) on Space Age AV32 light plates, along with FCI MS-6 pulls. A typical 1980s FCI system setup for the most part, along with newer System Sensor 2151 smoke detectors. But in one hall that linked between the library and student union parts, I saw an old flush-mount Federal Vibratone 350 horn and an older Gamewell Century pull! (with “LOCAL ALARM” on top.) This led me to believe the building originally had an old Gamewell FlexAlarm system or something, before upgrading to an FCI system in the 1980s. There was also a Fire-Lite BG-12 pull in one doorway, probably replacing an MS-6.