Walmart in Royal Oak has an EST QuickStart system, with EST G1R-HDVM horn/strobes. Pulls are all EST GE SIGA-270, some have stoppers.
Chapters in Crowfoot has a Notifier AFP-200 system, with System Sensor P1224MC horn/strobes. Pulls are all Notifier MPS-950B.
The Shoe Company in Crowfoot has a Notifier AFP-200 system, with Wheelock MB-G10-24 bells on Wheelock RSSP-24MCW strobe plates. Pulls are all Notifier MPS-950B.
CO-OP in Crowfoot has a Notifier NFS-320C system, with mostly System Sensor PC2W horn/strobes, that blend into the ceiling. There is one System Sensor P2R horn/strobe on a wall near the entrance. Pulls are all Notifier NBG-12LX
CO-OP in Rocky Ridge has a Notifier AFP-200 system, with System Sensor P1224MC horn/strobes. Pulls are all Notifier MPS-950B.
Ah I see. Either way I’m still a little surprised they switched to Simplex. EST has made some remarkable improvements since the EST2 (although they’re still not my first choice in panels), and since EST and Simplex are competitors they do not design the panels to communicate with eachother. I’m curious how they make the staged evacuation procedure work across the 2 brands; it’s probably not as easy as slapping an EST monitor module or 2 on the alarm relays of the Simplex panel.
FCI FC-72 Control Panel (4 zones, 12 zone cabinet)
AES Intellinet / Keltron 7750-F-4X4 Wireless Transceiver (16V power supply and power supply in additional cabinet)
5 FCI MS-2 Pull Stations (1st floor: main entrance, south exit/panel room/staircase, west exit/staircase. Lower Level: south staircase, west staircase)
theboginator, I’m pretty sure that the fire alarms aren’t connected at all between the old and new sections. The sections are basically 2 separate structures, so there’s no need to connect the fire alarm systems to each other. Meaning that if the fire alarm goes off in the new section, everything in the old section can go on as normal. And vice versa.
Another old school building in Brockton, MA has had its’ old fire alarm system junked. This time it’s an elementary school on the northeast side of town that has the same floorplan as the elementary school my dad attended in the 60s. The school had an old Gamewell FlexAlarm fire alarm system, with Benjamin dual-projector horns (ala the IBM/Simplex 4030-2) in the original 1963 structure, and Federal Vibratone 350 horns (old version) in the 1969 addition, with Gamewell Century “LOCAL ALARM” pulls and Gamewell-branded Chemtronics 500-series heat sensors throughout (and a few 400-series as well). The Gamewell panel was replaced with a Notifier NFS2-640 that has been set up as a conventional panel, and all the old alarm signals got replaced with SpectrAlert Advance horn/strobes (Aw, geez!) They kept the old heat sensors and Gamewell pulls though (as long as they were redoing the fire alarm system, they should’ve made a little effort to at least replace many of the heat sensors with smoke detectors in the proper areas.) I guess their old Gamewell system was failing and needed to be replaced, like at my first elementary school and their old Simplex system. It may not be long now before my second elementary school has to get a new alarm system as well (also an old Gamewell FlexAlarm system, but with old-style Vibratone 450 horns.)
Walgreens - Arlington, MA
Panel: Notifier System 500
Pull stations: Fire-Lite BG-12 at main entrance. Notifier NBG-10’s (most likely) elsewhere.
Smoke detectors: System Sensor i3’s.
Dollarama in Cochrane has a Mircom FX-2000 system (the panel is OUTSIDE.) with Mircom FHS-340 horn/strobes. Pulls are all Mircom MS-401. The Staples beside it has rhe same system
Cochrane Community Health Center has an EST system, with EST G1-HDVM horn/strobes. Pulls are all EST 270-SPO.
This year, Boston Comic Con relocated to the Boston Convention and Exhibition Center, a much larger space for the convention. The fire alarm system was a bit interesting: they had a Siemens voice-evac system (probably an MXL). Siemens fire alarm systems are very rare in Boston, which is normally dominated by EST, Simplex, Notifier and sometimes Fire-Lite and Gamewell. The building was built in 2003, so this system is obviously the original. There were several remote command centers of some sort around the building. The majority of the building had white U-MCS-W remote strobes installed in all appropriate areas, with the alarm presumably wired into the building’s speaker system. But a few areas, like some restrooms and some other smaller area, had a S-LP70-MCS-W speaker/strobe installed. The pull stations were HMS-Ds with Stopper II covers over them.
I was on a field trip a few days ago. Here are the fire alarm systems I saw.
A random parking garage near Atlantic Ave / Milk St - Boston, MA
Panel: Some sort of addressable Notifier system (didn’t see the panel, but there’s an LCD-80TM annunciator at the entrance.)
Pull stations: NBG-12LX’s
Detectors: Mix of FSP-851’s and FSP-751’s
Signals: Wheelock MT-24-LSM horn/strobes, and a few Wheelock AS horn/strobes at the entrance.
Isn’t it a bit interesting to see MT-24-LSM’s and BG-12’s together?
New England Aquarium - Boston, MA
Panel: Some sort of Simplex system (There’s a graphic annunciator at the main entrance, and the actual panel is hidden behind wooden paneling with ‘FIRE ALARM’ on it.)
Pull stations: Mix of 4251-30’s, 2099-9796’s, and 4099-9003’s (all with Stoppers). One outdoor area has 2099-9138’s (also with Stoppers).
Detectors: Mix of older and newer TrueAlarms. Older Simplex beam detectors in areas with high ceilings.
Signals: Many areas have wall-mount TrueAlert speaker/strobes. The main entrance area has a few 4904 strobes. One area has 4903 speaker/strobes, and another area has a ceiling-mount TrueAlert speaker/strobe. The aforementioned outdoor area has Wheelock ET70WP speaker/strobes.
Commonwealth Stadium has an EST system, with mostly Edwards MB10-24 bells on EST 403-5A-R strobe plates. Some areas are General Signal MB10-24 bells on the EST strobe plates. These are also in the bathrooms. Pulls are all EST SIGA-270
Century Park station in Edmonton has a Simplex system, with Simplex TrueAlert horn/strobes. Pulls are all Edwards 270-SPO.
University station has an Edwards system, but this station has Edwards 894B-001 strobes. (no audible signals). Pulls are all Edwards 270-SPO.
Southgate Station has an Addressable Notifier system, with System Sensor PC2W horn/strobes, one place has a System Sensor HR horn. Another area has a System Sensor PC2R, and a P2R. Pulls are all Notifier NFM-950B.
Red Deer A&W has an Edwards 1527 system, with a Wheelock MB-G6-24 bell on an EST 403-5A-R strobe plate. Pulls are both Edwards 270-SPO
If there is no audible system, how do people know to leave if there is a fire or the system goes off? Just flashing strobes alone won’t really help with notifying people I don’t think.