So they would have sounded like these horns then?
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So they would have sounded like these horns then?
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The pitches remind me of 1990s and 2000s Faraday horns, but they seem to sound like a 4051 at the same time, LOL
Like a loose early-model DC Faraday (pre-6020 and pre-5505)
I think it reminds me more of an Adaptahorn but that is just me.
Yesterday or sometime before yesterday, I was at the Claremont, New Hampshire Walmart, and workers are renovating that Walmart! Well, guess what I saw?
I saw a Bosch system! Bosch remote annunciators in the very front, near the food section, IIRC. IIRC, a Bosch remote annunciator was doing its version of code-3, but I didn’t see a fire alarm condition and instead saw it reporting a communication failure.
But it still looks like the same horn/strobes. mostly Wheelock ASes.
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So they would have sounded like these horns then?
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The pitches remind me of 1990s and 2000s Faraday horns, but they seem to sound like a 4051 at the same time, LOL
Like a loose early-model DC Faraday (pre-6020 and pre-5505)
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No, the horns in the video sound too modern; I’m guessing Federal Signal changed the configuration of these horns at some point. The horns at the church sound more like the old 1950s/1960s mechanical horns, and they’re also not explosion-proof.
So they would be older than the Adaptahorn sound then? That is interesting.
Eastman Hall | St. Cloud State University | St. Cloud, Minnesota
This 1930s building (formerly housing the main gymnasium and swimming pool) just re-opened this month after a major renovation and 15+ years of abandonment. What really sets this system apart from other systems on campus is that while every new building on campus for the past 15 years or so has gotten a Simplex 4100U voice-evac system, I believe that Eastman Hall actually has the first 4100ES system across the entire campus (I could be wrong on that, though). This new system also marks my first time ever seeing Simplex TrueAlertES speaker/strobes in person. Very interesting system, and not something I typically see in my Notifier and Siemens-dominant area.
(the exit signs are just generic All-Pro edge-lit units in red, if anyone was wondering)
Royal Tyrrell Museum in Drumheller has an EST3 system (currently with two supervisories), with mainly EST G1R-HDVM horn/strobes, with FIRE lettering trim plates. In the Cretaceous Garden, there are EST WG4R-HVMC horn/strobes. Outside, there is an EST CS405-7A-T strobe, and an Edwards 333D Adaptabel not in use. Pulls are EST SIGC-270B . It used to have a Siemens MXL, with Siemens bilingual Siemens U-MMT-MCS horn/strobes. Pulls were Siemens HMS-2S.
St. Michael Lutheran Church of Canton (Canton Township)
Annunciators/panel: Unknown, presumably National Time
Detectors: It was a little hard to confirm these, because they look similar to other detectors, but I believe they were the following:
Edwards 6200-series ionization detectors in the hallways and larger rooms (e.g., gymnasium)
Kidde HD200F-series heat detector inside smaller rooms
Pull stations:
National Time 641 models; most of these have STI 1000-series pull station covers, but not all of them due to a lack of wall space in some areas.
Notification appliances:
Most parts of the building use National Time-rebranded Wheelock 34T-24 horns on trim plates. I was a little surprised, since most 80s National Time systems have used rebranded 7002T and Faraday horn/strobes.
A foyer area contains a ceiling-mount blue beacon strobe, but I don’t know for sure whether it’s wired into the fire alarm system or a separate security system. I’m assuming it’s the latter, since it was right near an entrance and the only device of its kind I saw.
Through a rectangular window pane on a door, I noticed what appeared to be a horn/strobe down a hallway, but unfortunately, I couldn’t confirm this because the door was closed and inaccessible to the public.
Tipton Academy (Garden City) - This post covers only a newer gymnasium building on the property, where a rummage sale was being hosted.
Annunciators/panel:
One Honeywell annunciator (model unknown) at the main entrance
Detectors: None noticed
Pull stations:
One AIP 270-SPO at the main entrance
One 5140MPS-series t-bar (rebranded Sigcom device) next to an exit
Notification appliances:
Wheelock AS horn/strobes and RSS strobes throughout the main gymnasium room and smaller rooms. The horn/strobes have protective plastic covers over them.
Do you know what the model numbers for the National Time 34T-24, 7002Ts and Faraday 6020s?
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Do you know what the model numbers for the National Time 34T-24, 7002Ts and Faraday 6020s?
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Unfortunately, I’ve never been able to find information regarding the model IDs National Time used for its rebranded Wheelock devices. On eBay, I have come across rebranded Faraday devices from the same company, but since there have been several variations of the Faraday 6020 and related devices, I can’t confirm specific model IDs National Time used when rebranding them.
CVS Pharmacy (Harvard Street) - Waltham, MA
Pull stations: FCI MS-2’s
Signals: Wheelock MT-24-LSM horn/strobes and RSS remote strobes.
Boston Logan International Airport - Central Parking Garage - Boston, MA
Panel: Most likely a Simplex 4100.
Pull stations: 2099-9138’s in most areas, 2099-9756’s and at least one 2099-9795 in older enclosed areas, 4099-9003’s in newer enclosed areas.
Detectors: Older and newer TrueAlarms
Signals: Wheelock ET70WP speaker/strobes, and E70’s in newer enclosed areas. The rooftop level has red fire beacons and generic megaphone speakers.
Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport - Terminal 1 - Hennepin County, MN
Panel: Honeywell XLS1000 (rebranded EST3)
I found an annunciator, and it had multiple troubles and supervisories on it. (of course)
Pull stations: S464A’s and BG-12LX’s (they are very well hidden, but if you look around hard enough, you’ll find one.)
Detectors: System Sensor/Honeywell 2251’s (older and newer), along with beam detectors in areas with high ceilings.
Signals: Wheelock 8-inch speaker/strobes in most areas.
E70’s in some areas.
RSS and Exceder strobes here and there.
The light rail station has AS horn/strobes.
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Just curious, do the Wheelock 8-inch speaker/strobes have an sort of model number or are they just referred to as speakers?
The model is S8-24MCC-FW.
I recently went to a local restaurant for the first time, and was suprised to see that they have a Simplex 4050/4051 mounted on a 4050-80 light plate, as well as a 4251-30 break glass pull station! There are also several System Sensor 5600 heat detectors. It’s suprising to see that they’re still there, as the building was renovated a few years ago. I’ll try to get pictures if I go again, but there were a lot of people there last time, so I didn’t get any.
Applebee’s in Keene, New Hampshire:
Like the West Lebanon one, it has a full system with signal/strobes and a pull station, if not multiple pull stations.
I saw a Gamewell Century pull station under a Stopper cover (Stopper II?) at the entrance and a FireLite MS10UD for the FACP.
The signals appear to be Wheelock EHS/EH. (The strobes are vertical) They’re on trimplates that make me think of Wheelock 7002Ts. Possibly used to be Wheelock 7002Ts there!
I can’t remember if I’ve talked about my church’s system, but it’s actually pretty neat imo. The original building was built in the late 50’s, but as far as I can tell, there was no fire alarm system. After a few other small additions, another larger addition was built in the mid to late 80’s, and an Edwards 6616 was installed, along with 892 horn strobes and 270-SPO’s. There were also several 62XX smoke detectors and Edwards heat detectors. In 2002, another large addition was built, this one with a Silent Knight 5207 panel and corrosponding annunciator. Most of the signals are Gentex Commander 2’s and 3’s, with Spectralert Classic strobes in the bathrooms. While there are no smoke detectors (other than a System Sensor 2400 series and an i-3 for the elevator), there are many Firelite BG-12’s. In the late 2000’s, the 5207 failed, and was replaced with a 5208 and corrosponding annunciator. Both systems run in code 3, and are tied together. I’ve only heard it go off once, and that was because a sprinkler pipe froze and burst, which flooded part of the basement.
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I don’t know why I have trouble posting more than one image per post… regardless, here’s the 6616.
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