Has anyone seen a Simplex or Autocall Foundation Series panel in the wild yet? Has anyone seen any videos on them? Has anyone gotten hands on with one? I wonder if these will ever take off.
Suprisingly, Yes! I have and I used to own one.
Where did you get one and do you have any photos?
I don’t have a picture of it. I got mine from my Elementary, The old building, first building.
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Sure ya do bud. Let’s see it!
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Not to sound like a jerk or anything but, can you post pictures of it or proof that you have it in possession?
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They are new panels, why would it already be removed?
I dont have pictures of it.
So you can take photos of your doggy and beoken glasses and post on this forum on all hours of the day, yet you can’t get a photo of this very new panel you supposedly own. This has the classic “I have a girlfriend… No you don’t know her, she goes to another school, trust me bro” vibe. Cut your lying. It doesn’t make you look cool or smart, it makes you look desperate and noncredible.
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How does one “lose” a 20-pound control panel? 
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Call me skeptical, but this story really doesn’t seem plausible to me either. How could someone lose their big fancy red cabinet thingy that costs [insert exorbitant Simplex price here]?
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If you really had one of these, why wouldn’t you keep an almost brand new (probably way too expensive) panel and just throw it away when moving to a new house? Your story definitely sounds a bit fake.
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Bro does NOT have a foundation series panel 
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Sorry to bump this topic but you definitely own a foundation series panel. Also, before anything, I know this kid won’t reply cause he already felt the moderators wrath.
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I got my hands on 2 Foundation Series Panels late last year: 2004FS and 2050FS, both Autocall.
The 2004FS is meh. It looks a lot like a Fire-Lite MS-4. It has 4 zones and 1 NAC, like the 4001 did many years ago.
Two off-putting things I noticed with the 2004FS:
- It’s painfully slow. It can take several seconds to alarm.
- It has a time/date trouble, despite lacking an LCD screen. This is for the DACT, but even if you disable it, the trouble still occurs on startup.
Despite this, it’s ok as a small conventional panel. You can probably replace a 4001 with this: it can handle mechanical horns alright. It also has SmartSync on its single NAC as an option. The panel can be programmed with DIP switches, but it requires a hard reboot each time changes are made. A PC programmer is needed to set the date/time and program the DACT.
The 2050FS is a solid addressable panel. It looks and sounds unlike most Simplex panels. I heard it’s a rebrand of a European panel, and I can believe that. It can handle up to 50 points with 2 NACs. It uses it’s own version of MX protocol. It’s not supposed to be compatible with MX protocol on the 4100ES, though the new ESMX card might be (?).
Performance-wise, it’s about average. Nothing like the ES panels, but not horrible either. As for programming, it’s very flexible and probably one of most modernized in this regard. The 2050FS can be programmed via the keypad, a PC software, or the mobile app. Via the app, the job can be downloaded directly to the panel via an NFC reader. This reader is a bit finicky, but I never had a job download fail on it.
I’d prefer the 2250FS, since it’s the same size as the 2050FS, but has a 250 point capacity and 4 NACs. I’m interested in getting the 2008FS, as it has 8 zones, 2 NACs, and an LCD screen like the 4006/8.
I think these will make a decent competition to the current small-panel market, but we’ll see how they perform.
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I watched your video on the 2050FS, but I didn’t see that you had the 2004. Autocall is still very popular in my area, so we will see if/when I see one of these systems pop up.
This pull station (S4099-0008.pdf) says it is compatible with 2050, 2250, 4007ES, 4010ES & 4100es. So there’s some kind of compatibility between the two series. The 4007es part confuses me, so it may not be entirely for the U.S market. (I did not know simplex made a version of the 4007es that’s comparable with the MX protocol.)
Yeah, there’s some ZAM module datasheets I’ve seen that mention both ES and FS panels. Would be nice to be able to use them on either panel lineup.
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