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Fire Alarm General Discussion
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Here is a middle school that is sort of a mix between NewAgeServer’s Middle/Jr. High School and Massasoit Community College that wile_e2005 goes to.

This school was originally built in 1959 with Edwards single stroke bells along with Edwards coded bells.

But twenty years later (1979), they completely replaced the entire system with a 2001 system with 4051’s on 4050-80 light plates with the pulls being 4251-20’s along with only one 4251-30 by an exit. The panel was set on 90 BPM march time.

Then sometime in the 80’s, a new wing was added. The signals were 2903+2901-9806’s. They also replaced the 4051+80’s in the cafeteria.

But in the mid 1980’s, the 2001 was replaced by a 4002 and it did continuous. At the same time, they have added an SAE 2DCD on a V33 light plate in the home economics classroom.

In that same year, they replaced a 4051+80 and it’s backbox from the janitors’ room with a Wheelock 7002T w/o the trim plate.

In the early 90’s, the lights on the 2903 light plates in the corridors blew out and they were replaced by 4903-9101 strobe plates. They kept the 9806’s on there. A few years later, the classrooms in that corridor have 2901-9838’s on 4903-9101 strobe plates.

In 1994, 4051+80’s in the gym were replaced by -9838s on -9501 strobe plates.

Then in 1995, BIG CHANGES. They replaced about 95% of all 4051+80’s with 4903-9237’s. The bathrooms and most classrooms have 4903-9219’s. Then someone got lazy and put a 9219 that replaced the 9806 on one of the 9101 plates and disconnected the strobe on that 9101 strobe plate. They just wanted to save money. The 4251’s in the gym, and some of them in the halls, have been replaced by 2099-9754’s.

Then in 1998, they replaced the 4051+80’s in the locker rooms with Gentex GMS’s.

In that same year, they have replaced the 4051+80 in the music room with a Gentex GOS horn/strobe set to 800Hz Steady tone.

Then in 2001, they have replaced the art rooms’ 4051+80’s with SAE VA4 Horn/Strobes.

Two years later the 4002 was replaced with a 4005 still programmed for continuous and a TrueAlert (4903-9426) replaced a 4051+80 in the band room.

Then in 2007, there was a sort of a major upgrade. The remaining 4051+80’s were replaced by newer Wheelock MT horn/strobes (more specifically, the Wheelock MT-241575W-FR) set to high volume continuous horn, a TrueAlert (4903-9426 again) has replaced the SAE 2DCD+V33 in the home economics room, then about more than 50% of all the 4251-20’s were replaced by newer 2099-9756’s, then they have added weatherproof SpectrAlert Advances outside. The outdoor alarms do code 3 and the indoor alarms do continuous. The lone 4251-30 was kept and the 4251’s that were being taken down and being replaced ended up being sold on eBay.

I’m very sorry NewAgeServer if I kinda copied your Jr. High/Middle School System but that school’s alarm system inspired me of this system.

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West High school in Mount Pleasant was built c. 1900, but had alarms installed in the early 1960s. The pull stations are all Standard “local alarm” round pulls, and all the signals are grey 8’’ Standard bells (I forget the model # I think it began with a J)

A strip Mall a few miles away has various systems, but the store on the end, the Sara Lee Deli has FCI dual action MS pulls and a few red Wheelock AS horn/strobes.

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The Grand Plaza Hotel in Myrtle Beach, SC (favorite vacationing spot for me) was one of the best hotels in it’s class. With it’s antique architecture and elegant designs it was a great place to stay. It was built way back in the 1940s. A Grinnell Sprinkler system was protecting the place at the time so in the 1960s when a fire did break out there was no major damage. After this experience they decided maybe it was time to put in a fire alarm system to notify the occupants of a possible fire. They didn’t want to do this at this time.

In the 80’s they decided it was time for major renovations to the hotel, as it was getting run down and the vacationers weren’t having as great as a time. They decided to remodel from the ground up. They put in a pool and other amenities without ruining the stunning old style of the building. It was at this time that they decided to put in a fire alarm system. They put it a 2001 with 21 Zone Cards to accommodate the whole building. They put in Simplex 4251 Single Action t-bars and Smoke Detectors in the hallways. They put in Simplex 4050s at the ends of each hallway and in other main areas such as the restaurant and main lobby. Although they were scarce, you could believe they got the job done!

In 2004, they decided the hotel should upgrade their fire alarm system because of malfunctions and ADA compliance. So they took out the Simplex 2001 system and put in a Fire-Lite MS 9600.

Here’s the current system in the hotel today:

Fire-Lite MS 9600 Panel (2-SLC Loops)
Addressable Photoelectric, and Heat Detectors where they apply
Fire-Lite Addressable BG-10L’s
SpectrAlert Horn/Strobes 75cd
System Sensor PA400W Sounders in the rooms

Kidde AC/DC Smoke Detectors non interconnected and not with any connection to the fire alarm system

2009 Upgrades-

BG-10L’s will ALL be replaced with NBG-12LXs
Broken SpectrAlerts will be replaced with SpectrAlert Advances set on Medium Volume Code 3

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Not much referencing to Massasoit Community College there, except for a few 4051+80s getting replaced with VA4 horn/strobes.

Here’s one that I based once again off South Junior High School and the Davis K-8 school, but also a bit off the Huntington K-5 school (next door to South Junior High).

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A K-8 school that was built in 1955 originally had an Edwards system with 360-L flush-mount fire horns in the majority of the school, projector fire horns in the wood shop classroom and the auditorium, and Edwards 270-SPO pull stations. The school wasn’t much; it had 33 classrooms, the main office area, a cafeteria, a library, an art classroom, a home economics classroom, a wood shop classroom, an auditorium, a music room and a fallout shelter. The class-change bells were mostly 6-inch brown IBM bells (same kind as Dan M.'s elementary school had), but in the auditorium they had an 8-inch IBM bell. And outside was a mix of 10-inch Edwards Adaptabels, 8-inch IBM bells and at least one 6-inch Adaptabel.

On a semi-unrelated note, in 1971 an outdoor IBM bell died and was replaced by a 6-inch Simplex bell.

In 1978, the school was renovated. Most of the old alarm components got taken out, save the projector horns in the wood shop and the auditorium, which were just disconnected. The new fire alarm system featured a Simplex 4208 panel set to Continuous, which was located near the copy room. They also put an annunciator in the hallway near the room where the 4208 was, which proved to be inconvenient for not only the alarm crew but for the firefighters as well! The signals were mostly Simplex 4051 horns on 4050-80 light plates. Many of them had “FIRE” on the lens, others did not. In the wood shop classroom, they put in a Simplex 4051 horn on a backbox, and next to it was a remote 4050-80 light (like at Firefly’s sister’s high school). They also put one of these in the home economics classroom. The pull stations were all mostly Simplex 4251-30s, but at an exit near the stage, a 4251-20 was installed. They installed Edwards heat detectors in most places, but in a couple of the storage closets and at the elevator they put in during the renovation, they put in the older Simplex wiffle-ball smokes. Outside, they installed a SpaceAge Electronics 2DCD horn behind an AV32 light plate. They also took out all the indoor bells, disconnected the outdoor bells, and installed outdoor PA speakers and just used a tone on the PA system for class change. The school was finally reopened in 1979 (it took over a year for the renovation process!)

In 1984, the 4208 panel died. So they took it out and replaced it with a Simplex 2001 panel. The old Simplex annunciator was also disconnected and left there, and they put a new Simplex graphic annunciator in the main lobby. At the same time, a 4051 horn died and they just put a 2901-9806 horn in its place. The first year with the 2001 panel, it was still on Continuous. The following summer (1985), they recoded it to 20bpm March Time. Finally in 1986 they reprogrammed it to 90bpm March Time.

In 1987, another 4051 horn died and was replaced with a 2901-9833 horn, right onto the 4050-80 light plate.

In 1999, a 4251-30 died and was replaced with a 2099-9754 pull station, and one 4251-30 that had the glass frame keep falling off had the glass, frame and hammer removed altogether, thus converting it to a single-action pull station.

In 2003, the school was added onto. A new classroom wing was put in, and a gymnasium and locker rooms were finally built. The 2001 panel was replaced with a Simplex 4100U voice-evac panel (located in the mechanical room where the 2001 was installed), the graphic annunciator in the main lobby was kept, and they installed a 4603-9101 annunciator at one of the entrances to the new wing. The 4100U panel gave out the following message:

[quote] *Slow Whoop 4 1/2 times* "Attention. Attention. Attention. An emergency has been reported. All occupants walk to the nearest stairway exit, and walk down to your assigned re-entry floor or main lobby. Do not use the elevator. Walk to the nearest stairway. Do not use the elevator. Walk to the nearest stairway." *repeats slow whoops and message until silenced* [/quote]

The new sections had TrueAlert speaker/strobes installed, and the pull stations were Simplex 4099-9003s. In the gym, the pulls had Stopper IIs installed over them. The locker rooms had Wheelock E70 speaker/strobes in them. The bathrooms had remote TrueAlert strobes, and they had TrueAlarm smoke detectors.
As for the old section of the school, the 4051+80s (as well as the 2901-9806 and 2901-9833), 4251-30s (and one 4251-20) and most of the “wiffle-ball” smokes and Edwards heat detectors were left intact. The 4100U was also programmed to 120bpm March Time for the horns in the old section. Outside, the SAE 2DCD+AV32 got replaced with a Wheelock MT horn/strobe. The 4051 horn in the home economics room (now a computer lab) died and was replaced with a TrueAlert horn-only unit. The old remote light was left intact. The disconnected Edwards projector horns were finally taken down. In a kindergarten classroom, the 4051s couldn’t be heard very clearly, so a TrueAlert speaker/strobe was installed there as well. A few of the Edwards heat detectors were replaced with TrueAlarm smokes.

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This one is loosely based off of Allegheny General Hospital.

The Blumfield Office Complex was built in 1923. After a small fire broke out on the 14th floor in 1935, the building owner decided to have a fire alarm system installed. In 1936, Holtzer-Cabot installed break-glass coded pulls and single-stroke bells throughout the building, along with Fire Eye rate-of-rise detectors. On the outside of the building, a Gamewell Masterbox was installed. Using Holtzer-Cabot’s new “shunt system” idea, the indoor fire alarm system would trip the Masterbox outside.

In 1952, some renovation was done. Three of the old break-glass pull stations were removed as a result of the renovation, and got replaced with Couch 4263-1’s. Two of the single-stroke bells got replaced with Faraday bells.

The need was seen for expansion, and in 1968, the East Wing was built. Simplex installed a 4246 panel with 4263-1 coded pulls and 4070-1 single-stroke chimes. A 4246 was also installed in the main building. Simplex also disconnected the link to the Gamewell Masterbox, though the Masterbox itself was never removed. In 1973, 4050-80 light plates were retrofitted onto the chimes. Space Age V33 remote lights were also installed under the bells in the main building.

In 1976, more renovation was done to the main building. By this time, the old system was in need of an upgrade. Simplex was dropped due to financial issues, and Honeywell was hired to install a new system. They removed all of the single-stroke bells, and replaced them with Wheelock 34 horns. The V33’s were left intact. Most of the Holtzer-Cabot and Simplex coded pulls were removed, but 20 of them were left and tied into the coded circuit on the panel. Honeywell S464A pulls were installed in their place. In 1977, the 4070-1 chimes were replaced with Space Age 2DCD horns under AV32 light plates.

In 1989, the East Wing was renovated due to it’s dated design. A new Honeywell W940 voice evac panel was installed. The AV32’s were removed, and replaced with Wheelock ET speaker/strobes. In the main building, Wheelock ET’s were installed as well, and the V33’s were replaced with WST-24’s. At this point, only 14 Holtzer-Cabot coded pulls were left. In 1994, a few WST-24’s broke and were replaced with LSM strobes. A few more Holtzer-Cabot pulls were replaced with Fire-Lite BG-10’s.

In 2004, the W940 panel got fried during a lightning storm. Simplex was hired back, and replaced it with a 4100U. Almost all S464A’s were replaced with 4099 pulls, and four more coded pulls were removed. To cut down on costs, Simplex didn’t replace the Wheelock ET’s, but retrofitted them on 4903 strobe plates. In the East Wing, the ET’s were replaced with TrueAlert speaker/strobes. In 2007, all the Holtzer-Cabot pull stations were removed except for two, which were installed in tile, and would be too hard to remove. These pulls were instead disconnected, and 4099’s were installed next to them. A sign was placed next to the pull saying “Out of order”.

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Judging from the posts after this that Dan corrected, here’s a remake of this and with FUTURE renovations:

The school was initially built in 1970 with a Simplex 4247 coded system. The pulls were all Simplex 4263-10s, and the signals were 10-inch Simplex single-stroke bells installed behind grilles, and Chemtronics 500-series heat detectors in many areas where required.

By 1972, the coded bells were beginning to malfunction (Simplex issued a recall of their 10-inch single stroke bells produced/installed between 1969-1972). Simplex just took down the old bells and pulls, and they installed a battery compartment connected to the 4247 panel for AC/DC operation. The signals that were installed were Simplex 4051+4050-80s, and the pulls were 4251-113 Chevrons. The 4051+4050-80s did NOT have “FIRE” on the lens, actually, and the system was on Continuous.

1975 was when that 4051+small red bulb behind a metal cage was installed in the gym.

In 1977, a few 4050-80 plates needed replacing, and they put in 4050-81s with “FIRE” on the lens to replace those.

In 1980, two Simplex 4251-113 Chevrons were replaced with 4251-20s T-bars. In fact, more of these occured over time, so by 1987 half of the school had 4251-20s as the pulls!

In 1987, this was when the annunciator died, and it was replaced with a new annunciator that went to a new Simplex 2001 panel, which was set to 90bpm March Time. Several heat detectors were also replaced with Simplex “wiffle-ball” smoke detectors, and new duct detectors were installed and Simplex 2098-9806 test stations were put in.

In 1990, this was when the 2903 strobe plates were installed (these were the versions where the horn goes on the front side of the plate and not behind it). However, the basement still had their 4050-80s intact!

That 1991 repair when a 4051 broke down resulted in a 2901-9838 on one of the 2903 strobe plates.

1992 was when a Simplex 4002 replaced the 2001. The new annunciator was a Simplex 4602-9201 and 4602-9202 installed together.

In 1996, ANOTHER 4051 broke down, and was replaced with a Simplex 4904-9817 (2nd-generation 2901-9838).

And in 1998, a new Simplex strobe plate replaced a 2903 strobe plate. It was pretty unusual seeing a Simplex 4051 on a newer strobe plate like this.

In 2008, the school was finally upgraded. At first they were considering a Faraday MPC-7000, but they heard from an employee at a community college in Massachusetts that had this system in one of their buildings that it wouldn’t be a good idea, so they decided to stick with Simplex, being a reliable company and all.
EVERYTHING was replaced in the school! The new panel is a Simplex 4100U voice-evac panel, and the old annunciators were replaced with a Simplex graphic annunciator that had a 4603-9101 built into it. The new signals were Wheelock E70 speaker/strobes in the hallways, wall-mount TrueAlert speaker/strobes in the cafeteria, gymnasium, auditorium, library and other large rooms, ceiling-mount TrueAlert speaker/strobes in the classrooms, Wheelock ET70WP speaker/strobes in the locker rooms, and TrueAlert remote strobes in the restrooms! The pulls were all Simplex 4099-9003s with Stopper IIs installed over them, and the smokes were all Simplex TrueAlarms.

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Im just …

Im curious …

How much time do you have that you can MAKE UP a system. I barley have enough time to work on the real ones … and you can make up systems. To much spare time I guess…

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I think the 2903 had already been discontinued by 1990 due to ADA codes. They probably would’ve installed a 4903-9101 strobe plate.

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There was a strobe version of the 2903 plate back in 1990. In fact, SimplexTech has a clip of a Simplex 4002 system installed in 1992 with 2901-9838 horns on 2903 LIGHT plates! I guess the installers didn’t do their homework then.

But when did the 4903-9001 light plate and 4903-9101 strobe plate come out? I’m guessing it may have been the late 1980s.

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I’m bored, so I think I’ll add something.

Lakeshore High School was built in 1929. The original system consisted of Holtzer-Cabot coded pulls with single stroke bells, along with old ‘fire gongs’ with poles in the auditorium. In 1952, a new high school was built as the number of students rapidly increased. Lakeshore became a community center.

In the mid 70’s, an unknown Gamewell panel was installed. Vibrating bells replaced the single stroke ones, and unknown Gamewell pulls (the ones that look like mini street boxes) were installed.

In the mid 90s, several bells were replaced with Wheelock EHS-DL1s. Finally, in 2002 the system was upgraded again. An addressable Fire-Lite panel was installed. Addressable Gamewell Centuries replaced the old pulls, and all the NAs were replaced with Wheelock NSs. The fire gongs in the auditorium were left in place.

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I’ll make up a system that will be sort of based on my high schools system but it’s going to be a little bit different.

The building is a 5-story hotel originally built around in 1987.

The original panel was an Edwards Custom 6500 or whatever Edwards panel they had back at that time.

The pulls were Edwards 270-SPO pulls, and the signals are Wheelock 7002T’s on trim plates and quite a few areas have Wheelock 34T horns with WST remote strobes installed on the ceiling.

However, the signals in the conference and ballroom corridor had Edwards 892 electronic remote horns along with Edwards 802 remote strobes on the ceiling. The ballrooms have Edwards 892 electronic horn/strobes.

But in 2001, there were some moderate changes to the system.

The original panel was replaced with an EST3 system which is not set up in an addressable manner.

They have installed weatherproof Edwards Integrity horn/strobes all over the outside.

There were also Edwards Integrity horn/strobes were installed in all the hotel rooms and in the gaming room.

Wheelock MT4 horn/strobes had replaced some of the 7002T’s due to either inoperable horns and/or inoperable strobes.

About 35% of the original 270-SPO’s were replaced with newer 270-SPO’s with the “EST” logo instead of the Edwards shield and some of them were replaced with Edwards 278B-1120 pulls.

They have added a 692 mini-horn/strobe in the fitness center.

Note: All Edwards Integrities are set to Code-3 and will sync with the other signals that have a sync capability.

In 2004, they replaced the 892 horn/strobe in the ballroom for a SpectrAlert Classic Horn/Strobe set on Code-3.

Then in 2005, there were some new changes.

Some of the Integ’s from the rooms were replaced with EST Genesis horn/strobes w/ FIRE marking each with a trim plate.

EST Genesis remote strobes were installed in the bathrooms in all hotel rooms.

The 7002T’s in the indoor pool room were also replaced with EST Genesis horn/strobes.

The WST-24 remote strobes each were replaced with an EST Genesis ceiling mount remote strobe.

EST Genesis remote strobes were added in the lavatories near the main reception area.

The 892 horns were replaced with Wheelock MT horns set on low volume continuous horn and the 802 remote strobes were replaced with Wheelock RSS ceiling remote strobes.

One year later, there were a few minor changes.

A 7002T from the 5th floor (penthouse) was replaced with a U-MMT-MCS horn/strobe set to Code-3 Horn.

The Wheelock 7002T in the Spa was replaced with a SpectrAlert Advance horn/strobe set to low volume code-3.

This is pretty much it for this system.

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I have one: A middle school built in 1987 has Wheelock 7002-24s everywhere except the classrooms. The panel was by Notifier, and the pulls were NBG-10s.

In 1989, a pull station is painted over when the walls are getting re-painted. It was replaced with a new Notifier NBG-10L.

In 1990, the school cancels it’s contract with Notifier in favor of a local installer. Some more NBG-10s have to be replaced with NBG10Ls.

In 1992, the school is forced to put in smoke detectors, because it’s against code. The smoke detectors are System Sensors.

In 1996, when construction workers were putting tar on the roof as part of re-roofing the roof, the system goes into alarm, and the panel won’t reset. A Simplex 4004 is installed, the NBG-10s are replaced with 2099-9754 t-bars, and Simplex 4903-9217s are installed. The alarms remain the same.

In 1997, all the 7002T-24s are replaced with Simplex 4903-9217s set to code 3. Everything else remains the same.

In 2000, the smoke detectors are replaced with System Sensor 2400s.

In 2004, the 4004 was replaced with a Simplex 4100U, the smokes were replaced with TrueAlarms, and the pull stations were changed to Simplex 4099-9003s. The alarms were switched to Simplex TrueAlert Speaker/Strobes installed everywhere, even the classrooms. Wheelock MTs are installed as outdoor alarms.

In 2008, the MTs were replaced with TrueAlert horns under weatherproof covers.

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(OK This is an actual building here in Austin, but no FA system, it does have sprinklers downstairs with a couple of 34Ts, Gentex Big Mac smokes for Elevator Recall and a First Alert SA710 in the apartment.)

The Salvation Army Community Center had no system.

Now it has a Silent Knight SK-5208 panel, System Sensor i3 smokes, Multi-Criteria detectors in the chapel area/kitchen, SpectrAlert Advance P4R Horn/Strobes in the main areas, and SR strobes in the offices and restrooms, BG-12 pulls.

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A middle/high school, built in 1957, initially had this alarm setup:

An old unknown Couch panel.
Gray flat flush-mount Faraday horns were the signals (if Couch used Faraday signals in the past, that is).
Pulls were the old Couch “4263-1” coded pull stations.

The school was added onto in 1961 with a gymnasium, locker rooms and a few new classrooms. Signals in the new wing were Simplex 4040 horns, and the pulls were 4251-113 Chevrons. Chemtronics 400-series heat detectors were also installed in this new wing.

In 1968, the old Faraday horn in the main lobby was replaced with a Simplex 4030 flush-mount horn.

In 1979, the school had a fire alarm system upgrade. The original 1957 structure was what got upgraded for the most part…
A Simplex 2001 panel set to 120bpm March Time replaced the old Couch panel.
The signals in the 1957 wing were now Simplex 4051 horns on 4050-80 light plates, all with “FIRE” on the lens. Most of the 4051+4050-80s were on red backboxes.
Pull stations were Simplex 4251-20s.
Smoke detectors were mostly the old yellow ESL smokes rebranded by Simplex. Edwards heat detectors were also installed in some places.
But in the 1961 wing, the Simplex 4040s were simply replaced with 4051s behind the same flush-mount grilles the 4040s were. The gym and classroom hall in this section had remote 4050-80 lights installed next to the flush-mount 4051s, but not the locker rooms.
The 4251-113 Chevron pulls were left intact.

In 1983, a 4051 horn broke down, so Simplex came and replaced it with a 2901-9833 horn on the 4050-80.

In 1987, the hallway outside the cafeteria had its old ESL smokes replaced with Simplex 2098-9201 smoke detectors.

In 1989, a fire broke out in the 1961 wing in a utility closet. It wasn’t a serious fire that caused heavy damage (though a few walls needed to be replaced), but when a 4251-113 Chevron was pulled, it was accidentally ripped out of the wall in the process. The alarms still sounded, though, and the school was evacuated. After that, Simplex replaced that pull and a nearby one in the same hall with 4251-30 pulls.

In 1991, a local company took over servicing the system due to financial issues, and the next time a 4251-20 died, an Edwards 270-SPO pull replaced it.

Around 1997, an unbranded RSG T-bar pull replaced another 4251-20.

In 1998, the 4051+4050-80 in the library had the lens ripped off the light plate, leaving the red light bulb exposed. The alarm company noticed it, but never did anything about it.

The school was a little miffed about that, as well as one instance where the Chevron pull in the girls’ locker room broke down and was not replaced; they just put a metal plate over where it once was! That was in 2001. They told the alarm company that they either meet their requirements or they are fired. (The school was too picky about consistency in the system :stuck_out_tongue: )
But the last straw came in 2003. The school conducted a fire drill that May, but the teacher and students in the art classroom at the time reported that the alarm didn’t sound in that room. The school called the alarm company once again, this time requesting to replace the dead 4051 horn and make it look neat. Unfortunately they did not get the message appropriately, and instead they just slapped a Wheelock NS horn/strobe onto the 4050-80 plate where the 4051 once was, then ripped the lens off the light plate, disconnecting the light but leaving it exposed!
The school had enough of the amateurish work this local company did, and true to their word, sacked them. They hired SimplexGrinnell back to servicing the school (the school’s principal had been working there since 1985 until her 2008 retirement).

During the summer of 2004, two new Simplex 2099-9756 pulls were installed in the girls’ locker room; one at the doorway to the pull, and one at the exit out of the locker room. They also took out the bulb from the 4050-80 that had a Wheelock NS installed over it, and put red electrical tape where the light once was. The school was satisfied with that.

In 2005, a few of the old ESL smokes died, so Simplex had to replace them with new non-addressable TrueAlarms.

In 2006, the multi-purpose room needed an extensive renovation, as did the main office. The 4051+4050-80 in the office was left intact, but the multi-purpose room had a TrueAlert horn/strobe installed for ADA-purposes. New addressable TrueAlarm smokes were installed in those two areas, and the 2001 panel was replaced with a Simplex 4010 panel (also set on 120bpm March Time).

In 2007, the school thought having four Simplex 4051 horns in a gym wasn’t a great idea (the athletic staff was beginning to complain about headaches from not just the noise of the alarms, but when the scoreboard’s buzzer was used and all the noise the kids were making.) A 4003 voice-control panel was installed in the athletic department offices, tied into the 4010 panel in the 1957 wing. The 4051s were replaced with Wheelock E70 speaker/strobes, and the remote 4050-80 lights were disconnected.

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Another one based on a real building here in Austin.

Echo Lanes is a 36-lane bowling center. It has a bar and a snack area. Up until now, it didn’t have any alarms. But when they remodeled, they decided to put a system in. It’s a Fire-Lite system, with BG-12 pulls and i3 smokes. The appliances are Wheelock Exceder alarms. There are HSWCs in the majority of the bowling area, STWs in the restrooms, and HSRs in the back room. There are also heat detectors in the back room and kitchen area. The panel is mounted behind the front desk.

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OK, so this is yet again based on another couple of existing schools, but here goes…

A school was built initially as a middle school in 1958 and had the following setup:
An old unknown Gamewell fire alarm panel with AC-only output, etc.
The alarms were old flush-mount Faraday horns (somewhat a variation of the Type 2 or their explosion-proof horns). Some were red, others were gray.
Pull stations were the old Gamewell dual-action ones that looked like the city boxes (non-coded version).
The clock system was that of an old IBM master time panel, with the square silverish IBM clocks with black thin hands and numbers and 6-inch IBM bells (most of them black, some brown, a few of them were painted red for some reason). Outside, there were 8-inch IBM bells, most of them with cages over them, but one near the blacktop/playground was installed behind a grille.

In 1968, a Gamewell Century pull station was installed near a kitchen exit where there was no pull or alarm, after a small fire broke out and they had no access to a pull station within reach.

In 1973, the town’s only elementary school had to be converted to a high school when the existing high school building collapsed, so plans were underway to convert the middle school into a K-8 school by adding a new part of the building…

The new K-5 part of the school building was built in 1975 with:
The panel was an old Simplex 4208. An annunciator was installed in the main lobby of this portion of the building, and another near an entrance door outside the cafeteria of the 1958 part of the building so the middle school staff would know which part of the elementary school was in alarm mode. The Gamewell panel was left intact in the old building.
The alarms in the new K-5 part of the building were Simplex 4051 horns on 4050-80 light plates. Some had “FIRE” on the lens, others did not.
Pull stations were all Simplex 4251-30s.
Simplex 4255 heat detectors were installed around the building, as well as a few older Simplex mechanical heats.
This portion of the school also had an older 1970s-cira Simplex clock system, with the same clocks as the middle school section (but branded by Simplex instead of IBM), and with grey 6-inch Simplex bells behind grilles for the most part, except the gymnasium which had a couple of 10-inch Simplex bells (also behind grilles). The only bell not behind a grille was one in a hallway near the boiler room and the kitchen. Outside there were also 10-inch Simplex bells installed behind grilles. To avoid confusion between the bells, both parts of the school followed the same schedule, and the Simplex clock panel was tied into the middle school’s existing IBM clock system.

In 1979, the Faraday horn in the wood shop room was replaced with a Simplex 4050 horn.

In 1984, two of the old Gamewell pulls died. Since they were too large, they were just taken out and plated over, and Simplex 4251-20 pulls were installed near where these old pulls were.

In 1989, the old Simplex 4208 panel was beginning to have problems. Additionally, it was starting to become inconvenient for the school’s two separate fire alarm systems not being tied into each other. A Simplex 4002 panel was tied into the 4208, and it was also tied into the old Gamewell fire alarm system in the middle school portion.

In 1991, the duct detectors in the K-5 part of the school were replaced with newer ones, and new Simplex 2098-9806 test stations were installed, even in the 1958 portion of the building were new duct detectors were installed. Additionally, a new Simplex graphic annunciator was installed in the 1958 section, covering both sections of the school.

In 1994, a Simplex 4251-30 died, so it was replaced with a Simplex 2099-9768 Chevron.

In 1997, a 4050-80 plate was hit in the small gymnasium in the 1975 section, but the 4051 horn wasn’t damaged, so they replaced the 4051 onto a Simplex 4905-9221 strobe plate, then put a metal cage over it and the alarms in the main gymnasium in that section too, as well as over the alarms in the 1958 section’s gym (the pulls in the 1958 wing were already heavy-duty and dual-action, and the pulls in the 1975 wing already had metal cage covers over them.)

In 2003, the 4002 broke, so it was removed and replaced with a Simplex 4010 fire alarm panel, and addressable duct detectors were installed to replace the existing ones. The old Gamewell alarm panel in the 1958 section was taken out, and a 4606-9101 annunciator was installed in its place, as the 4010 was also controlling that portion of the building. The Simplex 4208 was still left intact, though tied into the 4010. The system was now programmed so the 1975 part of the building had the alarms sound on 120bpm March Time, but the 1958 section had their alarms sound on 60bpm March Time.

In 2005, a 4051 horn in the 1975 section’s art classroom died, so the 4051 was simply removed, the 4050-80 plate disconnected and its light socket taped over, and a TrueAlert horn/strobe (4903-9425) was installed onto the 4050-80.

The following year, the 4251-30 in the 1975 section’s main lobby died, and was replaced with a Simplex 2099-9103 pull station. Additionally, roughly half of the old heat sensors were replaced with new TrueAlarm smokes (non-addressable ones), and addressable TrueAlarm smokes were also installed in the 1958 section.

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This 3 story high school was built in 1940, With an unknown farady fire panel, and faraday 10" bells with Gamewell coded pull stations underneath each bell. There were also unknown smokes. The bells were IBM 6" bells.

In 1950, They built a new addition, including 2 new wings, complete with a cafeteria and a library. They took out the old faraday system, and replaced it with an Edwards 6500 Voice evac system with an Edwards 6500 panel tied to it. They had 6" single stroke adaptabels with speakers next to them. The pulls were replaced with Edwards 270-SPOs.

In 1962, The Edwards system died, and they replaced it with another Edwards system, a 2280. They had Edwards 6" vibrating bells. They also had edwards smokes. They replaced the IBM bells with Simplex 6" bells.

In 1984, The Edwards Bells all died during the summer, so they had to quickly replace them with
Simplex 2901-9846s, with4050-80 light plates.

Finally, In 2004, They renovated the school once again. The system was replaced with an EST Quickstart, With ADA compliant 270-SPOs and both Edwards 4" bells and Edwards 874-N5s on Integriety strobe plates. The smokes were Edwards 2420s. They replaced the bells with new Edwards 6" bells, with 10" bells outside & in the Tech classrooms.

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Uh, voice-evac didn’t exist in the 1950s :stuck_out_tongue:

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The only reason I put that is because my moms work has these panels:

I have no idea what the one on the left does, but the one on the right is an Edwards 6500:

With either 6", 10" or 4" adaptabels.

I think it could be a voice communication panel. I remember my mom telling me that when the alarm goes off for fire drills, Her boss comes on the intercom, telling them where the fire is, for pratice.

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With either 6", 10" or 4" adaptabels.

I think it could be a voice communication panel. I remember my mom telling me that when the alarm goes off for fire drills, Her boss comes on the intercom, telling them where the fire is, for pratice.
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They have bells with a voice evac system? If they have voice evac system why don’t they have just the speakers for the alarms? I wonder if the bells stop when the voice comes on, or elese noone will hear the voice instructions.