A middle school that was built in 1967 that had Simplex 4041 horns that were originally flush mount behind red grille plates. In 1972, the school decided to add visual notification appliances, so the 4041s were put behind Space Age Electronics AV32 light plates that flashed on and off. In 1988, they remodeled the field house and the alarms in the field house were replaced with 9838 horns on 4904 strobe plates. Two parallel hallways and the music classroom (which was in another hallway) had Gentex SHG horn/strobes replacing the 4041+AV32s in 1990. In 1993, the remaining 4041+AV32s were all replaced by the 9219 horn/strobes. The main entrance had a Wheelock AS installed out there in 1995. Finally in 1997, the smaller auxiliary gym which had a 9219 which was demolished in a freak accident was replaced by a Mircom Select-a-Horn/Strobe.
Are these system upgrades at all possible on any system or are they not feasible at all?
the year was 1988,a new high school was made it had 3 wings,main wing (center) left wing,and right wing,they installed a EST 6500 system with adaptahorns and 270 SPOs,in 1995 the school was destroyed in a fire,a new school was made on top of that and they installed a brand new simplex (4005/4010?) system that was set to continous with wheelock MT-34-LSM-VFRs,in 2009 the system was replaced with a notifier system,all the pulls was replaced with NBG-12Ls and all the A/Vs were replaced with system sensor spectralrt advance PC2W ceiling mount horn/strobes on code 3,
Okay, never done this, so here goes… (I don’t know dates really well…)
So, Philmore City Building didn’t have a fire alarm system for a long time. Then they had a fire in the east wing. This prompted them to get a system. They got a Gamewell Zans 400 Panel, Gamewell B4 Horns, Gamewell Century’s, and Chemtronics 501 Heat Detectors. Then, another fire broke out, this time in the west wing. All the devices in the west wing were destroyed. The heats were replaced with System Sensor 1400’s in the main areas, and more Chemtronics 501 Heats. The N/A’s were replaced with System Sensor MASS-24’s. Eventually, the Zans panel malfunctioned, and was replaced with a Silent Knight 5204 Panel. Alot of the N/A’s and initiation devices were changed/added. First off, they went through and tested all of the 1400’s. Ones that wouldn’t trip were replaced by NOS 2400’s. The Chemtronics heats in the center building and the east wing were replaced with 2400’s as well. Pull station’s were finally added. They went with BG-10L’s. The MASS-24’s were replaced with the ADA version. The B4 horns were replaced with those as well. Within about two weeks most of the BG-10L’s were replaced. About half of them were replaced with BG-12L’s. Someone carrying some scrap metal accidentally broke a 2400 with a metal beam. It was replaced with an i3-2WB. Some of the MASS’s were malfunctioning due to a water leak. The leak was patched and the remaining MASS’s were replaced with System Sensor SpectrAlert Classic H/S’s. Eventually they got a new panel, and Edwards FireShield, resulting in the remaining BG-10’s being replaced with 270-SPO’s, and all of the MASS’s being replaced with Integrities. Most of the 2400’s and the rest of the 1400’s were replaced with SC-20U’s. That’s it!
Try not to quote a wall of text for a one-line reply. It makes us have to scroll further, and that’s not fun lol :lol:
Anyway, the BG-10s wouldn’t need to be replaced unless the system goes from conventional to addressable. But whatever lol. I have seen some odd replacements in real buildings, like 4251-30s and RMS-1Ts with MASSes and Spectralert Classics.
In 1972, the American Inn opened with 500 rooms. They had originally a HUGE standard system with those circular Standard pulls, Standard light plates with Standard 4040s, Standard heat detectors, Standard remote lights, and Standard smokes. The rooms had Standard rebranded Pyrotronics mini buzzers, Standard Smokes, and the restrooms had Standard Heat detectors and Standard remote lights. In 1977, they got a grant to built the much needed kitchen and dining room. The kitchen had Autocall 4050 pulls, Wheelock 34-24s, And Overstock Standard heats from 1972. The dining room had Autocall 4050 pulls, Wheelock 7002-24s, and Johnson Controls Smokes. In 1978, the pool area collapsed from a sinkhole. Fearing that the sinkhole would expand, hotel management closed 125ft long indoor bridge. In 1979, they tore the bridge down and sought an agreement to build a new pool with their insurance. In 1980, the new pool was opened with an Olympic size swimming pool, a normal size swimming pool, 3 lazy rivers, 5 indoor slides, 10 hot tubs, 8 saunas, 3 locker rooms, a bar, an arcade, and a guest center. Due to the amazing size of the structure, they had to get a voice evac system. Due to the old standard panel being to old to tie a modern at that time panel to it, they had to upgrade the hotels fire alarm system. They took out all the alarms, put them in storage, and the panels interior was gutted and put in storage, and the cabinet was made into tool storage. They installed a Simplex 2120 system with the whole setup. They put in Simplex 4251-30GA pulls with Simplex 2902-9739 speakers with the 2903 style strobe on top. The small areas, restrooms, and occasional hallways had Simplex 2904-9101s. They had 2098 smokes.
A college was built in 1984 and this is how the system evolved over time. The alarms that were original to the building were Edwards 894 horn/strobes which are the electromechanical version of the Edwards 892. In 1987, parts of the building were redone and the auditorium, bookstore and computer lab were replaced with Edwards 892 electronic horns. In 1992, the success center was redone and had a Wheelock 34-24 horn on a Space Age Electronics AV32 light plate. The distance learning center and placement testing classroom in 1994 each were replaced with Edwards Integrities. 1997 brought a Gentex GMS electromechanical horn to the administration and the faculty offices. Finally in 2003, the career services, computer lab and the math lab has Edwards Genesis horns.
The system was originally a Simplex 4208 Panel with
4251-113 Chevrons. The horns were 4030s and the smoke detectors were the whiffle ball type.
In 1975 They kept the 4208 but replaced the 4030s with 4050s on 4050-80s. They put in 4251-20 pulls and the same detectors.
In 1988 They replaced the 4208 with a 2001. They replaced the 4050s with Simplex 2901-9833s on 2903 strobe plates. They replaced the smoke detectors with those of the same Model only they were new. They did the same with the 4251s.
In 1992 They replaced the 2903s and 9833s with 4903-9219s They replaced the 4251s with 2099-9754s and the detectors with 2098-9201s.
I’m just wondering what the heck happened to all of the posts? There were a lot more posts in here considering that my last post was in 2014. Did the board glitch again?
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The Benjamin Harrison Elementary School has a system that is set up like this. For the most part, it is a Wheelock system with mostly Wheelock horns though there are some exceptions.
The hallways in all of the school have Wheelock 7001T electromechanical horn/strobes which are in other places that need alarms but are not listed here.
The larger gym which is the main gym has instead Wheelock 34 horns that are one Space Age Electronics AV32 light plates that blink.
The cafeteria on the other hand has some older horns which are Simplex 4051 horns on 4050-80 light plates with fire lettering that also blink.
The administration wing which was redone and previously had 4051+4050-80s now has Space Age Electronics 2DCD horns hooked up to Simplex 2903 strobe plates.
The media center has one Wheelock ZNS horn/strobe which is set to code-3 horn.
The flex room has one Wheelock MIZ horn/strobe which is panel-coded to code-3.
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