Simplex 4004--9101- what Heat Detectors to use

Fire Alarm General Discussion
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Does anyone know which heat detectors to use with an older Simplex 4004-9101 conventional zone FACP?
Probably a 135 fixed temp would work.
I’m thinking the 4098-9733 heat detector will work but not sure.
Any ideas?
Thank you, everyone!

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The model you listed is addressable and won’t work.
What you’ll want to use is a 4098-9401.
https://www.tycosimplexgrinnell.com/wps/wcm/connect/f7a78eb1-c475-42ed-9b02-503b6a1fe708/4098-9401%2C+4098-9402%2C+4098-9403%2C+%26+4098-9404.PDF?MOD=AJPERES&CACHEID=ROOTWORKSPACE-f7a78eb1-c475-42ed-9b02-503b6a1fe708-kX1P2QX Datasheet

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Not the 4098-9733. That is the electronic heat sensor for use on addressable MAPNet or IDNet circuits.

Use one of these on a 4004 hardwired panel.
4098-9401, 4098-9402, 4098-9403, & 4098-9404
Electronic Heat Detectors, direct connect models

4098-9612, 4098-9613, 4098-9614, & 4098-9615
Electronic Heat Detectors for two-wire and four-wire bases

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Thank you, everyone.

That was pretty cool… I joined up yesterday afternoon, needed some info with not much time for a lot of research or time wasted, the next morning is an answer.

Thanks again and hope I can also provide some answers from time to time too.

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additional response…

Couldn’t I use a 4098-9612 135 f.t. HD, if I don’t have the others you guys mentioned? Looks like that is compatible with the 4004 series FACP.

Thoughts?

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Not the 4098-9733. That is the electronic heat sensor for use on addressable MAPNet or IDNet circuits.

Use one of these on a 4004 hardwired panel.
4098-9401, 4098-9402, 4098-9403, & 4098-9404
Electronic Heat Detectors, direct connect models

4098-9612, 4098-9613, 4098-9614, & 4098-9615
Electronic Heat Detectors for two-wire and four-wire bases

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My bad…it looks like you said the 4098-9612 will work.

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They both work, they are just wired differently.
With the 4098-940X series, the wiring goes into the detector head.
With the 4098-961X series, the wiring goes into the base.

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Awesome. Thank you everyone for your timely and knowledgeable responses. It’s greatly appreciated!