Anybody ever seen these smoke detectors?
The System Sensor 1400
You read that correctly. These two are Simplex detectors as well. The System Sensor 1400 is the same as…
The Simplex 2098-9577
And the Hochiki SLG-24F…
The Simplex 2098-9636
Yes: the whole Hochiki-Simplex relationship has been known about for quite some time, & usually if two devices look virtually identical there’s a good chance that one of them’s a rebrand so it’s not like it’s been “secret” either.
The 1400A detector was rebranded by a lot of people, I have the Mircom MiR-1400A, System Sensor 1400A, EST EDW-1400A, and the Simplex 2908-9577.
I have seen some of the Simplex rebranded 1400s before. Not to mention Simplex rebranded the Edwards Adaptahorns which is way more obscure then the Simplex 1400s.
Say hello to the 4901-9802
Simplex also rebranded several Wheelock devices, like the AS, NS, and MT. I actually own a Simplex-rebranded AS, and the model number is 4903-9247. I do not own the rebranded MT, but it is the 4903-9235. I’m also pretty sure that Firealarmguy13 on YouTube owns a rebranded Wheelock NS4, which is the 4-wire variant of the traditional NS.
Really? Huh, well how about that. I wonder why they rebranded them if they likely would’ve already had their own devices to use.
Wheelock and Simplex have had a lot of partnerships in the past. The tones used on the older multitone TrueAlerts are just modified versions of the MT tones. The 4003EC is also just a rebranded SafePath, but with Simplex firmware. I’m not sure about this one, but the TrueAlert ES speaker strobes resemble Wheelock’s E50 series.
Really? Huh.
Yeah, the 4003EC I know about: why they rebranded it except maybe to replace the 4003 when they discontinued it I have no idea though.
I eventually noticed that myself actually.
I remember their parent company Tyco and Johnson Controls also made a rebranded BG-12LX which is called the JBG-12LX with their branding on it.
Mhm: I believe that was back before Johnson Controls acquired Simplex/Tyco & they had a partnership with Notifier.
Johnson Controls still rebrands Notifier. Johnson Controls IFC2 series.
I have an old addressable SDX-551 base that is rebranded by Johnson Controls. The model is B501BJ, I think I actually posted in the Flea Market on this forum.
What? How is that possible though if they literally own one of Notifier’s main rivals now? (thus you’d think the partnership between JCI & Notifier would have been cancelled once the former acquired Simplex/Tyco)
Honeywell also rebrands the EST 3 as the Honeywell XLS. Weird but interesting…
Not to mention that depending where you are, you would see Simplex systems with Wheelock devices. Seen a ton of them.
You can probably guess what these are a rebrand from:
(hint: it would be a system that would randomly get troubles and faults/supervisory for random reasons)
Honeywell XLS. I don’t understand why Honeywell would choose to rebrand that but whatever lol
Yeah: not sure what’s up with that considering Simplex has pretty much always had their own devices that they could (& frankly should) be using on their systems instead.
Oh come on: Edwards/EST’s much more reliable than you think!
Me neither honestly, unless it was because they wanted to stay in the life safety industry but had stopped making the FS90 & their other panels thus requiring rebrands.
In the videos I checked, Firealarmguy13 referred to the device as an NS4 instead of a Simplex model number. I am also not sure why Simplex would rebrand the NS4, since they already had their own strobe sync protocol in 1996 according to patent 5886620. Do you have any information on the model number or date code Simplex used?
