Systems with separate horn and strobe NAs.

[Fallin86]

Have you seen them? My local Targets are like such. Red horns on the poles and white RSS strobes on the ceiling tiles. There’s a wall-mount horn/strobe by the restrooms. I find such an interesting system.

[firealarm2905]

DonutHeaven, a small store somewhere in San Bernardino. They had a Simplex 9838 (I’m not sure of it, just looks like it.) and had a Wheelock RSS next to it, pretty cool.

[tsscman123]

False Alarms?

I found this video a long time ago, notice the MASS and Gentex strobe. I’m guessing the designer/engineer preferred Gentex strobes, and a tone on the MASS.

[nightfly287]

@Fallin86

Have you seen them? My local Targets are like such. Red horns on the poles and white RSS strobes on the ceiling tiles. There’s a wall-mount horn/strobe by the restrooms. I find such an interesting system.

I think EVERY Target has that setup. Two ones near me do.

[tsscman123]

@The Big Green

@Fallin86

Have you seen them? My local Targets are like such. Red horns on the poles and white RSS strobes on the ceiling tiles. There’s a wall-mount horn/strobe by the restrooms. I find such an interesting system.

I think EVERY Target has that setup. Two ones near me do.

Mine has white SpectrAlerts ceiling mounted, and a white SpectrAlert wall mounted in the hallway by the restrooms.

[nightfly287]

@tsscman123

@The Big Green

@Fallin86

Have you seen them? My local Targets are like such. Red horns on the poles and white RSS strobes on the ceiling tiles. There’s a wall-mount horn/strobe by the restrooms. I find such an interesting system.

I think EVERY Target has that setup. Two ones near me do.

Mine has white SpectrAlerts ceiling mounted, and a white SpectrAlert wall mounted in the hallway by the restrooms.

I stand corrected.

[Destin]

It’s done a lot in malls, department stores, and other buildings with high ceilings in order to more efficiently fulfill the required sound and strobe coverage. I don’t know the exact formulas for determining the placement of audible and strobe appliances, but sometimes separating the appliances allows designers to use fewer of one device type and lowers current draw. For example, rather than installing 4 speaker/strobes on each wall of a rectangular atrium including an upper-level balcony (adding up to 32 speaker/strobes), a designer may be able to use just 5 high-wattage ceiling-mount speakers which will have better sound coverage by pointing down rather than out. Now, the designer can get more creative with the placement of strobes and could perhaps cut down the original quantity of 32. Cost, code, and current draw all go hand in hand and pretty much drive everything.

[tsscman123]

Here is an example of a speaker system with separate speakers and strobes:

do not congregate in front of the exit doors

[tsscman123]

I would also like to point this post out.

Fire Alarms in Buildings (2.0)

[Nathan]

@tsscman123

Here is an example of a speaker system with separate speakers and strobes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgfTQvQSqZg

i wonder if thats a coustom message or not

[tsscman123]

I think someone in the comments said that it was a custom message.

[Prog]

@tsscman123

@The Big Green

@Fallin86

Have you seen them? My local Targets are like such. Red horns on the poles and white RSS strobes on the ceiling tiles. There’s a wall-mount horn/strobe by the restrooms. I find such an interesting system.

I think EVERY Target has that setup. Two ones near me do.

Mine has white SpectrAlerts ceiling mounted, and a white SpectrAlert wall mounted in the hallway by the restrooms.

Mine too.

[wiley209]

I have seen this quite a few times. Our local Home Depot mostly has wall-mount Wheelock NH horns and ceiling-mount Wheelock RSS strobes (they have an EST system.) Though I do remember seeing a few NS horn/strobes as well!

The Conant Science Center at Bridgewater State University (Simplex 4100ES voice-evacuation system) has this in some areas; remote TrueAlert speakers next to remote TrueAlert strobes. Maybe this was to make wiring easier or something? Other areas have TrueAlert speaker/strobes…

[Fire_Alarm_Fan]

The Cabela’s in Owatonna uses 4901-9805 and 4904 strobes.

the La Crosse Center in La Crosse, WI has Integrity speakers and separate strobes

[tsscman123]

I don’t have any systems that like in my area (that I’ve seen). They are all either horn/strobes, or remote strobes.

[Fallin86]

@tsscman123

I don’t have any systems that like in my area (that I’ve seen). They are all either horn/strobes, or remote strobes.

Yeah. They’re not very common in my area either. Both the Targets in my area are the only places that I’ve seem with systems like such. I think the reason why the Targets use separate horn and strobe NAs is because there are plenty of areas in a large store that only need strobes. In smaller areas of the store, like near the restrooms, where both sound and strobe coverage is needed, they have wall-mount horn/strobes.

[tsscman123]

I still think it is neater, less time-consuming, cheaper, and requires less labor to just install horn/strobes on the ceiling along with just strobes. There’s no reason to have a horn only device mounted on the walls.

[Fallin86]

@tsscman123

I still think it is neater, less time-consuming, cheaper, and requires less labor to just install horn/strobes on the ceiling along with just strobes. There’s no reason to have a horn only device mounted on the walls.

Yeah it probably is.

[Simplex_4051]

At my college, some of the SpectAlert Advanced speakers are wall-mounted without any strobes and there are outdoor strobe only appliances.

[EdwardsFan]

This school had installed Wheelock MTs, and Wheelock LSM strobes. I thought it would probably be much easier to install just the horn/strobe combination of these.