Upcoming Fire Alarm Replacement

I have briefly talked about my schools fire alarm system on here, therefore it is a bitter sweet announcement with this next round of construction, the entire system is going to be replaced. If you have heard about my schools system, you know that is an absolute programming nightmare with all the different features and panels they use, not to mention the different types of devices. The new system is definitely needed and I’m excited for it to be installed.

BUILDING A (the main building that houses most classes): A Notifier N16X panel will serve this building with 10 loops of initiating devices (this is a change to the original post. The current system has an excessive amount of devices, especially smoke detectors, that will be reduced requiring less loops. In addition, as opposed to having one loop per “area” of the building, the 16 “areas” will now be zoned via isolation modules). Notifier 951 multicriteria smoke detectors will be the main sensors on the system located in every part of the building. With the new system, there will not be a single room without a sensor. Restrooms, science rooms, kitchens, and workshop areas will be equipped with rate of rise 951 heat detectors in lieu of a smoke sensor. Gymnasiums will utilize Notifier FS-OSI-RI beam detectors. There is a portion of the building with a VESDA system and that system will be left alone but monitored by the new system. DNR series duct detectors will be utilized throughout the HVAC system. These devices will trigger a full alarm, shut down the entire building’s HVAC, and close all fire dampers within the HVAC system (this shutdown of all HVAC and closing of fire dampers will happen on any alarm however, I do not know why). Notifier NBG-12LX’s will be utilized in every office, and in a few key portions of the building, but automatic detection and sprinkler will be the main activation for the system in most areas. The auditorium area has vents that open if a stage smoke detector goes off and automatic dropping of the fire curtain.
LED L series speaker strobes and speakers will be what most of the building utilizes. Many areas will have ceiling mount, but there will also be wall mount. Wheelock cluster speakers and bull horn speakers will be utilized in louder environment spaces in conjunction with System Sensor LED strobes. With this system, if a singular spot SMOKE detector is activated, it will trigger a positive alarm sequence. During the investigation period, all auxiliary functions such as door drop and HVAC shutdown will occur, however instead of evacuation messages being played, a standby message will occur. If a second alarm goes off or if the initial device is something other than a spot smoke detector, an evacuation warning will be broadcast immediately.

BUILDING B (two floors of classrooms and an alternative high school in the basement): this building will have all the same devices except the panel will be an N16E serving 3 loops. This building is older so there will be no positive alarm sequence and pull stations will be provided throughout.
BUILDING C (the aquatics building): this buildings system will not be replaced as it is still very new from 2015. Same goes for the on-site stadium.

The ability to broadcast emergency messages from building to building will exist and each building will have a button/pull station to lockdown the entire campus, evacuate all buildings, and shelter all buildings.
Every entrance will have a P2RK right outside and every single parking lot will have Wheelock STR speakers throughout to allow for emergency broadcasting. These speakers will also be placed next to main entrances in lieu of a horn strobe to provide better instruction for any guests that may be trying to enter the building. The system will allow for fire, tornado, and active shooter warnings.
A popular question was how drills occur: currently, an announcement is made 15 seconds prior, and the alarm is sounded in all buildings from a pull station. With the new system, each building will not alarm the other, so to make drills easier, a drill button will be provided and used. To be up to code, this button will be programmed to initiate an alarm on each system, and perform all auxiliary functions, but the message will be a ‘drill’ message to enforce that the alarm was planned. As I previously stated, I will update this if any changes occur.

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Cool to see that the NOTIFIER INSPIRE series of panels are being used in some new buildings, as I have searched, and there are not that many videos of the panel in action. Also cool to see the new L-Series LED devices being put in. Do you think that the speaker/strobes will say “FIRE” or “ALERT”, because you said the system could be used for fire tornado and active shooter alerts. Please keep us updated, and share some pictures of the devices!

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I will say is that I prefer the current system with the mixed devices. Unhappy with LED L-Series speaker strobes (unless they are ceiling mount) since those are actual eye sours imo. I guess get the devices.

Will definitely keep posted. There is one bid with blank devices and one with seperate amber, blue, and clear strobes.

I do agree that the new L-Series look kinda ugly (with the exception of ceiling mount), but it is good to see because of lower current draw, so more devices per NAC

would be cool to see different colored LED strobes

one of the first buildings to have led l series

what is the current panel?

Even then, there’s the Eluxas which are better looking devices IMO. The lower current draw and the test ports are the only good things I can say about the LED L-Series.

The devices are to be unmarked I believe.

I have an update for this thread as things have changed. Building B’s replacement is currently happening, and the devices are marked fire. The Rauland Telecenter U will be used as the campuses mass notification. The fire panel is a 3030 in building B, not an inspire series.

Are the devices Xenon L-Series or LED

Xenon :pensive:
They don’t make LED speaker strobes yet.

If any old addressable Notifier stuff gets removed I would love to get my hands on it.

Working on that now. Here’s a list of devices coming out:
•1 AM-2020 (3 bay cabinet, CPU, control cards, internal DACT with phone cords, power supply, and an on-board booster panel with the corresponding control module)
•3 LCD-80 annunciators (standard key control)
6 newer FSP-851 duct detector assemblies from 2010 when HVAC was added to this building (each has a control module to trip its corresponding 230 VAC contact that shuts down the air handler for that specific duct detector. In addition, 3 of these units have dual control modules to also close smoke dampers. These 3 also have relay modules to give power upon reset of the detector and re-open dampers. Please note that the corresponding test switches were replaced with LED indicator only units to satisfy modern code and I am unsure that they will be removed with the system. The dampers and 230 VAC contacts are for sure remaining.)
•about 100 SDX-551 Photoelectric smoke detectors (a handful of FSP-851 or 951 models have been installed as replacements)
•4 FDX-551 thermal heat detectors
•23 BGX-101L pull stations
•18 System Sensor MA-12/24 sounders
•37 Gentex GXS series 177 candela strobes
•2 booster panel assemblies
•handful of various modules that complete different tasks

With the new system, a sprinkler system will be added (3 wet risers and 1 pre-action), automated door holders will be added to improve flow mainly from stairwells to the floors, an area of refuge call box system will be added, and the system will now be tied directly to the fire department without a monitoring service.

Do you think it’s possible that I could get my hands on the AM-2020, I’ve been fascinated by them lately and would love to mess around with one.

Final update in the fire alarm replacement in building B:
Renovations are nearing completion, new fire alarm, public address, and building time systems are in place.

Fire alarm:
•A Notifier NFS2-3030 is installed with white ceiling mount speaker strobes marked “alert”
•951 series detection throughout
•Pull stations have been almost completely removed
•The building is now fully sprinklered

I have a video of part of the verification of the voice evacuation system, however it won’t allow me to post on this platform. The notifier chime tone was used and a standard female voice is the message.

My school district’s 4/5 Grade school, which is a single building school, has a modern Siemens system with MS-51 Dual Action pulls, ZNS Horn Strobes, and ZNS Remote strobes. Here is where it gets interesting, there is a random dark grey 7002T Horn Strobe by the cafeteria, and a remote 7002T Horn in one of the stairwells. There is Gentex SHG Horn Strobes in the gym, and lastly, a random Pyrotronics bell outside, which is tied to the main system, not just for the sprinklers. This school is very outdated, but the school district chose not to replace it since they just rebuilt the middle school. However, to accommodate the rising number of students, they are turning the district offices into classrooms. They also tour a quarter of the gym off to build new offices. It is likely that there will be new Siemens ELUXA LED Horn Strobes, but judging by the amount of device that have been removed with there backboxes just hanging out of the wall, they might be putting in a Voice Evac system.