I really want one? Are they good panels? I can always get monitor modules if needed
This is for a hobbyist system btw
Hard to program without software, an afp200, 300, 400 or nfs 320, 640 without NCA would be easier and cheaper to use
The 3030 is a very high end addressable system rivaling the Simplex 4100ES, Siemens MXL, and EST3/4. It has some serious capabilities, but also a high learning curve.
While a lot of features on these panels can be keypad programmed, and devices can be added and a functional 3030 system made straight from the front panel, many other changes can only be made from a computer. The software used to program these panels is called VeriFire Tools (VFT) and all versions newer than 5.9 will require a license key to work. Even newer versions require a CLSS sign-in. Older versions are out there and can be found online, but require older/specific firmwares to communicate with the panel or specific workarounds for certain features.
The 3030, like most high end panels, is also extremely modular and customizable. You will need at least the CPU, power supply, and display (or NCA) to build a functional system. There are dozens of cards and modules that can be added onto the panel to form a system that’s tailored specifically to the needs of the building. You’ll likely have to find all the components and build the system yourself, or you may end up spending a lot on a ready-to-go system.
As your first panel, I’d recommend something like a Firelite ES-50X/200X or MS9200UDLS if you want to go the addressable route. These are also much cheaper online and easier to find than a 3030. No license required to program, and the latest software can easily be found online.
However, the 3030 is probably the most enthusiast friendly high end panel to program and work with, especially if you can get it working with an older version of VFT.
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NFS-3030 was discontinued pretty early, wouldn’t recommend getting as you will probably break it
As an NFS2-3030 owner, trust me when I say this, the 3030 is a BIG learning curve, so I HIGHLY recommend you get a conventional panel, or if you really want addressable, get an MS-9200UDLS.
Would you still need Verifire?
for most things no. only advanced control you would need verifire except if you get a 640 with an nca. that requires verifire
What does advanced control include?
I would go with a 4007ES, no license restrictions in programmer and easy to program
things enthusiasts wouldnt need like smoke control and sequencing etc.
4007es is not a good first panel. easy to brick and other issues
Why did we even restart the topic, op is gone (and for good reason)
When you follow the steps correctly, you get close to 100% success rate. Very few panels failed during upgrade using my instructions.