Well, if the strobe is 15 candelas and flashes once every second, then at least it’s ADA-compliant. If not, then that’s a huge surprise.
So what??? As long as it works. There is nothing wrong with it.
Ok… Lazy has nothing to do with it. It has to do with their bid to do the job. They are doing the work so that indicates to anyone with a hint of knowledge of the industry knows they got the lowest bid and will do whatever it takes to stay at or below that figure.
Nope, it looks like an old signal also, with fading and paint marks.
Since you were inside, I think its safe to assume this building is open for business? Inspection has passed… no one cares…
Sorry for the year delay :lol: , but here it is!
Here’s a better, brighter shot of the bad Simplex 4051+80 install job at the Davis K-8 school:
I can’t understand why the heck they did that! Maybe it was always like that since 1974, but then again, the Raymond school (built with the exact same floorplan as the Davis school) has a 4051+80 at that spot installed the way it should be, and this install job could be the result of when they replaced the panel and annunciator (they currently have either a Simplex 2001 or 4002 panel and a Simplex graphic annunciator) and installed the 2098-9806 test stations. The school also had quite a bit of other inconsistencies with their system, even though the 4051 horns still work really well, as do the 4251-30 pull stations (the ones that didn’t got replaced with 270-SPOs). However, I recall that one 4050-80 light plate was missing the lens! I’m not sure what happened to that afterward. I just know the guy testing the fire alarms took a note on that, as well as a defective 2098-9806. And in the library, the 4050-80 light plates did not come on (but the 4051s sounded). I think the loudness of the 4051s there killed the power to the light circuits for some reason. Not only that, but some time in either the late 1970s or the early-to-mid 1980s, the small gymnasium’s 4050-80 light plate broke down, so they took it out, and they installed the 4051 horn onto an Space Age Electronics AV32 light plate. And it actually looks kinda sloppy, too:
You can see part of the hole from where the 4050-80 plate once was, and the 4051 horn is only on one screw and the AV32 plate is tilted a bit.
I actually saw something like that today! It was at a Fashion Bug store next to the Expression shoestore. I saw through the window, and the Fashion Bug store had Gentex GMS horn/strobes installed onto the 2903 retrofit plates! It looked very weird this way. Oh, and I know they’re GMSs because I saw silver through the grille. They had Simplex 4251-20 pull as well. I think it might be tied into the Simplex 2001 panel at the Shaw’s supermarket in the same plaza. But the Expression store had 2901-9833 horns in the 2903 plates. I’ll try and get a picture of this soon.
I’ve seen something like that on eBay.
umm, sorry, no pic, but… i saw an RSS on an RSSP on an RSSP… epileptic warning?
WTF? That’s not possible.
Here’s a bad one:
Someone got lazy and instead of putting up a new horn/strobe, they “retrofitted” an iStrobe right over the horn on this 9219, which must have a dead strobe.
ha, at my school they had 4051’s on dual projection plates, but they had one 4051 on a light plate. it broke, so they put a freaking truealert on the light plate, and disconnected the light. plus, they did a crappy job mounting it, so overall it looked like crap. plus, someone crushed a cheveron with something (idk what it was) and they never replaced it! plus these horns are so old, if you are watching a movie in the room with the lights off, you will miss a fire drill for sure! sorry about my flaming, but i was pretty annoyed about how stupid the district fitters were.
Is the iSight made by Federal Signal? Looks similar to the strobes on the Selectone Speakers at my MS.
The iSight is actually made by Apple Computer and can be found in many iMacs, iPhones and MacBooks.
The iStrobe is made by Federal Signal.
Lol, my mistake. I meant iStrobe, I just worded it wrong.
Was the light plate a Simplex 4050-80?
I often see Simplex 4051s installed on those light plates, like this pic taken at the Davis K-8 school, where I had kindergarten. And I am SURPRISED that Simplex would actually slap a TrueAlert onto a light plate! That sounds like something System Sensor or Adaemco or Silent Knight would do, but they’d use SpectrAlerts or Gentex GMS/SHGs or Wheelock horn/strobes. The only bad Simplex install job I’ve run across so far is this:
They put the Simplex 4051 horn on TWO backboxes, and the rear backbox was mounted directly onto the 4050-80 plate, and the conduit is blocking the light! This was taken at the Davis K-8 school as well. I wonder if it was always like this since 1974, or if it occured when they replaced the panel and annunciator and installed the 2098-9806 test stations in the 1980s or early 1990s? (I think their current panel is a Simplex 2001, and they have a Simplex graphic annunciator in the main lobby, and Simplex 4251-30 break-glass pulls.)
Oh, and missing a fire drill due to watching a movie in the classroom with the lights off, and no strobes on the alarms? That happened once at Ben Schumin’s high school involving one of his younger sister’s classes! They had Simplex 4040 horns, until they renovated the school and put in a cheap Fire-Lite/Silent Knight etc. system with SpectrAlerts.
Apple INC 
No they are Apple Computer Co.
It’s Apple inc.
It’s been Apple Inc since 2001.
It was changed from Apple Computer to Apple Inc in 2007, when the iPhone was announced. Before that, they were always Apple Computer.