it is completely legal as almost all ceiling devices are dual listed for wall use too. Also because the strobe is designed for the ceiling, it will give enough light around the room anyways.
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Is the orientation of the lettering legal? I thought there was a requirement somewhere for the lettering to be oriented in a way that does not require occupants to weirdly twist their heads to read it.
Yeah, the lettering is what made me think of it was a code violation. The strobe should work correctly, but it might be hard for people to know what the alarm is for, especially if the system plays the insane default simplex message. To clarify, the strobe is not a violation, but the lettering might be a problem.
It will be fine. Many buildings with MNS (Mass notification) don’t have lettering on the appliances or have multi use lettering such as this device. This looks to be a voice evac system so letters seems supplementary. also if you here an alarm sound, flashing lights and everyone evacuating you can assume its a fire alarm and tbh the text is not hard to read.
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That and the fact that people rarely need to consciously look at the fire alarm to figure out that it’s going off and act accordingly
Here’s some I’ve seen throughout a few years
This sideways Gentex commander 3
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Wall mount Spectralert Advance on the ceiling
Well, I guess this works
Bet it’s fun resetting this
I have no words
Wall mount EST Genesis on the ceiling
That’s a bit crooked
Two fails here, right next to eachother!
Literally the next day
Ceiling mounted Simplex remote strobe on the wall
Finally, where’s the head?
This is actually ok because SpectrAlert Advance strobes are listed for use on either wall or ceiling. Given that the device has no lettering, it might be a chime strobe, which was never produced in the round ceiling form.
This is actually also ok because the device doesn’t have a strobe. Edwards actually never made a round version of the horn-only Genesis , so this is the only device available for ceiling mounting. The lettering is oriented slightly oddly for a ceiling mount device, but other devices such as the U-MMT-MCS have similar lettering and are also listed for ceiling mounting.
Both noted! Didn’t think about the Genesis one too well
One thing I find funny is that they put the Genesis’ trim plate on upside down. If it were a strobe model, the indent would be made to be lined up with the strobe so the trim plate doesn’t interfere with the strobe output. It doesn’t matter because it doesn’t have a strobe, but it does look odd.
in the first picture you can see that there is something covern a 270sp0 pull station
in the second picture you can see and edwards 439d mounted crooked
in the 3rd picture you can see the same bell/strobe with a cage falling off in a basketball gym
and in the 4th picture coming back to the same device in picture 2 you can see the piston that rings the bell is not aligned/ falling off backplate which then would fail to notify occupants in an emergency
in the 5th and 6th image you can see wall mounted integritys on the celing in the 6th image you can see the integrity kind of falling off the ceiling
Man, that system sure is a mess! Wonder how it got that way (it’s a unique one just the same though given the bell/strobes).
Looks like some kind of poster to me. That pull station looks way too curved to be a 270-series one though: are you sure that’s what it is?
Someone didn’t bring their level with them that day! (even though even hand-straightening should have been relatively reliable: guess that wasn’t done either!)
Either that or it was mounted crooked by the same installer who installed that crooked bell/strobe.
The term for that component of an electric bell is “hammer”, but you’re right: it’s not underneath the gong like it should be, which means it’ll just move up & down repeatedly without striking the gong & thus not cause the bell to ring like it should.
What a mess…thought about getting the AHJ on it, see if they can do something to have all the problems fixed? (most of which are admittedly minor, but still)
in the first picture that is a seperate system the first one is at a school and the rest are at a recreational facility and yes i am sure that is a 270sp0 with mounting piece to get grip with pullstations i belive it might just be a thing with older buildings
Oh, okay.
Still doesn’t look like one to me: any chance you could get a better photo of it? (particularly from the front if possible) That may help in positively identifying it.
i can try .so how could i get those fire alarm issues fixed
Alright, thanks!
As I said previously: by going to the AHJ (Authority Having Jurisdiction) & seeing if they’ll do anything to get the building owners to do something about them (though they usually won’t unless it’s a serious problem that might affect the operation of the system, such as an open circuit).
Looks like the thing has eyes lamoooo