Fire Alarms in Buildings (2.0)

This is a system in a visitor’s center at a historical village in a state forest.

Original System
Panel: Siemens/Cerberus Pyrotronics Addressable Panel (Likely a small MXL)
Pulls: MSI-10Bs
Detectors: FP-11s and FPT-11s
Signals: UMMT-MCSes

New System
Panel: Fire-Lite ES-50X (ANN-80 Annunciator)
Pulls: BG-12LXes
Detectors: SD365s and H365s
Signals: P2RLs and SRLs

Such a dreadful shame that a Siemens system got replaced with Fire-Lite

Buzz light year space rangers spin. Disneyland park, CA.
Old simplex alarms original to the building.
Anyone know what model? Are they voice evac? There are newer alarms that replace the old ones.


Those are Simplex 2902-9711/2902-9713 remote speakers, originally made by AtlasIED (formerly Atlas Sound/Atlas Soundolier) as the VTF-15-series (you can’t tell which brand they are since they’ve been painted over. I’m honestly surprised they don’t have speaker/strobes in those areas though: it seems like they would need them).

If there’s no newer signals in that area the old Atlas speakers are probably still connected.

They did put in new speaker strobes. I guess instead of just removing the old, they just stuck new ones up.

Oh, yeah: one advantage of doing so is that the existing speakers & the new speaker/strobes can work together to help make sure the tones & messages the system broadcasts are always audible no matter what.

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When I was there, I saw a few E70s in that building so I have no clue if those older speakers are used for the fire alarm system or not.

Yeah, I’d assume the newer NA’s are used

Farmington First United Methodist Church (Farmington) - The church’s official webpage shows the current building opened in 1922 with an educational wing added in 1958 and another addition in 2002, which is most likely when the current system was installed. This post covers the Wesley Hall of the 1922 building, located in the basement.

Annunciators/panel:
<Unknown, presumably a Radionics D1225R annunciator or an equivalent model, possibly with a D7022 panel

Detectors:
<Unknown

Pull stations:
<Radionics D461/D7045 series t-bars (rebranded RSG models)

Notification appliances:
<System Sensor SpectrAlert (first-generation) horn/strobes and strobes

The Yacht Club also has the same devices. The guest room floors of the Beach Club have Gentex Speaker/Strobes.

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This past weekend, I went to the Furpocalypse convention in Stamford, Connecticut. convention at Stamford, Connecticut. The Armon Hotel it was at, built in 1984 (with a few partial renovations since), had a rather interesting EST fire alarm system (most likely an EST-3, given the annunciator at the reservation counter).
The majority of the hotel has EST Genesis horn/strobes, with many of them on the trim plates, but one panel room on the second floor had Wheelock AS horn/strobes, the video gaming rooms on that same floor had Wheelock RSS remote strobes, another area had a System Sensor SpectrAlert Advance horn/strobe, and the main lobby and ballrooms and related panel rooms had EST Genesis speaker/strobes! There were also a couple Federal Signal Vibratone 450D horn/strobes, clearly the original alarms from when the hotel was built, and most likely disconnected.
The pulls are Edwards 270-SPOs with simple STI covers over them, with many of the pulls being the 1980s version (suggesting they were the original pulls installed with the Vibratones) and some newer models with GE and EST logos, along with SIGA-PS smoke detectors (many of them were on large trim plates, clearly covering up where older smoke detectors were, but some were on the smaller base and had the “GE EST” logo). It’s possible the old system was a rare instance of Edwards using Federal Signal Vibratone horn/strobes, or it could’ve been another company that also used Edwards’s 270-SPOs (and there were a few in the 1980s that used them as their metal pull station option).
The parking garage had SpectrAlert Advance horn/strobes, and Edwards 278B-1110 pulls and at least one 270-SPO pull with Stopper II covers.

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Wilton YMCA, Wilton, CT:

Panel: Gamewell-FCI S3 (annunciator is in front foyer)
Pulls: Fire-Lite BG-12s
Alarms: SpectrAlert Advance Speaker/Strobes and at least two SPSRL speaker strobes
Detectors: 2151s

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Wow! Heck of a find right there: not every day you see a white SHG!

I saw it at crown center in kc

Frank Murphy Hall of Justice (Detroit, built in 1970) - This place still has vintage components in use!

Annunciators/panels:
<Siemens FireFinder XLS series panel, presumably tied with one or more Simplex 4208, 4245, 4246, or 4247 panels

Detectors:
<Siemens photoelectric models, type unknown

Pull stations:
<Siemens HMS-S models, presumably replacing Simplex 4263 models due to the size of the surrounding trim

Notification appliances:
<Simplex 4037-1 horns
<Simplex 4070 chimes, presumably separate from the fire alarm system as there are several in close proximity to the horns
*All of the notification appliances are gray in color, with some of them painted over

That’s rather late for the 4037. I thought Simplex started switching to re-branding Faraday and Federal Sign & Signal signaling devices in the mid 60s. You should contact Old School Fire Alarms about this. Be sure to have the city salvage the backboxes for the 4037s too (those are rarer than the alarms themselves).

I found some vintage mid-60s Honeywell S465 pull stations (general alarm switch variant of the S464) and single stroke bells (also Honeywell) at the Akron City-County Safety building (Harold K. Stubbs justice center for the Akron city court). I have no clue if they are still in use, as the building has a modern EST voice system in place.

That system is weird. I have seen a newer unit in the Crown Center that had EST genesis horn strobes.

These images are from a restaurant. It seems that the smokes are fsp-751s, but the system is a DMP system. It has Spectralert classic speaker strobes. The pull stations look like they are one of the sigcom t bar pulls, and these are branded by Spectronics. Also you can see that there is a regency security system keypad.



You say “generic t bar pulls”, but that particular one is a Spectronics-rebranded Sigcom SG-42SK-series t-bar (or possibly an older SG-32SK-series one instead): like RSG’s RMS-1T many companies rebrand it.

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