I didn’t know that. I remember a brand name for those somewhere, but I couldn’t remember it.
In one of the campuses for the university in my city, in the engineering and tech building, the system is an EST3 with integrity NAs.
I should mention that the health university also uses EST on its campus.
buckaroos my image of the AS at my school got featured on google and microsoft
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Bismarck Event Center
Bismarck, ND
Consists of two buildings connected by a hallway in the middle. They have separate systems (one Simplex, and one Siemens), and I don’t believe that they are connected to each other, as there are smoke detectors for both systems at the connection between the two buildings. I heard the older Simplex system go off once when I was here for a show.
Main Building: Late 60’s (renovated heavily in the 90’s)
Panel: Unknown older Simplex panel (could be anything from a 4002 or 4005, to a 4100+)
Notification Appliances: red 4903 electronic horn strobes in the slightly newer part and 4903-9101 strobe plates with Wheelock EH-EL1 electronic horns in the older part that are likely replacing much older horns that were original to the building. All on continuous.
Pull Stations: Simplex 2099-9101 single action pull stations in the newer section, and 4251-30 break glass pull stations in the original section.
Detectors: the only ones I could spot were a simplex 4098-9601 in front of the elevator, and a 2098-9201 in front of the connection to the other building.
New Building: Late 90s. Updated and size tripled in 2010s.
Panel: Siemens FireFinder XLS voice evac system
Notification appliances: rebranded wheelock E-50s and E-60s (including some odd ceiling mount lettered E-50s) Unknown message.
Detectors: Siemens OP921 addressable smoke detectors
Pull stations: Siemens HMS-D addressable pull stations
Although I find the old system very interesting, I think that they should have extended the Siemens system to both buildings when they installed it because the old Simplex system is very outdated and ineffective. I experienced this firsthand when it went off and nobody was moving. I actually had to tell my parents that it was going off because they didn’t realize. I think that a proper voice evac system would at least help this.
My therapist’s office got another new fire alarm panel!
Some time last week they replaced their Silent Knight IFP-100 panel (installed in 2011 to replace an old Kidde panel) with an Autocall-branded Simplex 4007ES! Aside from also replacing the nearby smoke detector, nothing else was changed with the system, largely consisting of Wheelock MT-24-LSM horn/strobes (along with an NS and a few Exceders), System Sensor i3 smoke detectors (and a few 5601 heat detectors) and Edwards/AIP 270-SPO pulls (though the one near the panel was replaced with a Fire-Lite BG-12 this past spring).
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That previous Silent Knight panel was relatively new. I’d almost thought Autocall brand went extinct from Simplex taking over it’s market.
For some time it did, but then Johnson Controls revived the brand after buying out TYCO/SimplexGrinnell, for selling Simplex products to third-party distributors. This is very similar to when Edwards had AIP (Alarm Industry Products), and when Faraday had FOS in the late 1980s and early 1990s. And my area is also home to the most popular Autocall distributor, NSG Life Safety (a division of Norel Communications). This has led to a few newly-built and recently-renovated school buildings going with Autocall-branded 4100ES mass-notification systems (while some school districts here still stick with EST for that).
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Hy-Vee grocery store in Omaha at 78th and Cass. The system used to be a Simplex 4005, but was replaced with a fire lite panel within the past few years. The NAs were simplex. Idk if they were the mechanical horn variant or the electronic horn variant. And then near one of the entrances they had a system sensor Spectralert classic. Now they have system sensor l series ceiling horn strobes. The interesting thing is that the old panel is still there and is still powered up.
And here is the fire Lite annunciator and pullstation. Idk if it is addressable, I don’t see a light blinking inside it but it does have a number written on it. I have seen other pulls in the building that have different numbers on it. Also, I forgot to mention that there seem to be a few simplex duct detector test stations still hanging around.
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I just did a thread on the fire alarms at my local zoo. Fire alarms at Omaha Nebraska Henry Doorly zoo
This is at the local history museum in my city. The building used to be a train station for UP back when they did passenger service. The building’s architecture is beautiful. The fire alarm system is a Notifier system, most likely an NFS-3030, although it could be a 640. The system has a DVC, and the upper levels are voice evac. The lower levels are not. All of the notification appliances have been replaced with Spectralert advances. The NAs used to be Gentex commanders, but they removed those. There are a few FSP-851 smokes, but for the most part it is a bunch of older smokes. Idk if they are addressable, I think they are. There are also some conventional heats. At least a few are edwards recalled, but there are also a few system sensor ones as well. There is also at least 1 RSG pullstation. There is also some sort of beam detector that I am not familiar with.
If that’s not lazy I don’t know what is.
I really wonder what the systems at the other stores in my area look like. I am really surprised they haven’t powered down the old panel at the store near me.
Masuk High School, Monroe, CT:
- Panel: EST3 with Voice Evac
- Pulls: SIGA-278s
- Alarms: Integrity Speaker/Strobes
- Smokes: SIGA-PS detectors
New Canaan YMCA: New Canaan, CT:
- Panel: EST3 (?)
- Pulls: SIGA-278s
- Alarms: Genesis/WG4 horn/strobes and Integrity horn/strobes in pool area
- Smokes: SIGAs
This is at the Nebraska Furniture Mart, in the electronics and appliances building. The system is a Johnson Controls branded Notifier system, the NAs are a mixture of SpectrAlert classic white horn strobes, ceiling mount spectralert advance strobes, and in one section there are some ADA MASS alarms as well.
Floor and decor store. System appears to be a silent knight system of some sort. Pulls are BG-12LXs. (No you will not get me to use the silent knight model number). NAs are System Sensor L Series
Duluth Trading Co. System is Fire-Lite. Pulls are unbranded RSG T-Bars. NAs are Spectralert Advance HS. There are also some duct detector key switches from ESL. And there is also one from system sensor, not pictured here.
Location - Mama’s Pizza in La Vista, NE. System is a Gamewell Flex system (rebrand of fire lite ms series it seems). NAs are system sensor SpectrAlert Advance HS ceiling mount. There is an i3 in the vestibule, as well as a StarLink alarm transmitter. There is also an unbranded RSG pullstation.
Nice, I own one of those flex series panels
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One of my local hospitals has a very interesting and diverse Siemens system.
Panel: Unknown Siemens panel
Notification Appliances: Simplex mechanical chimes on the walls and silver versions of the Wheelock cwht-24 strobes on the ceilings in some parts.
Other parts have Wheelock wst-24 strobes on the walls along with Siemens U-HN mechanical horns.
Some replacements seem to be Wheelock CH-70’s.
Pull stations: (no specific model numbers because I have no idea)
They look like this:
Smoke/Heat Detectors: (no specific model numbers because I have no idea)
They look like this:
This building is kind of concerning for many reasons, but here are some of them:
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VERY limited strobe coverage (often only one strobe that is not ADA compliant per 2 fire separated areas)
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Very old and outdated system
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This is a HUGE building (across multiple city blocks). I would expect some sort of voice evac system.
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Man, that system looks like a disaster waiting to happen! (quite literally!)
Those are known under various different models: common ones include MS-151, MS-5, & MS-51 (which usually depend on the brand).
That first one is a Siemens FP-11 multi-criteria smoke detector (photoelectric & thermal), & the second is either a Cerberus Pyrotronics ILI-1 (addressable) or DI-3 (conventional), both of which are ionization: the model all depends on the color of the LED.