First Lutheran Church- Mandan, ND
Panel: Siemens SXL-EX
Notification Appliances: White versions of EST 792 horn/strobes and their matching remote strobes (surprisingly many are not yellowed) and at least one System Sensor P2R horn/strobe.
Smoke Detectors: Cerberus Pyrotronics PE-3 conventional photoelectric smoke detectors (there are an absurd amount of these throughout the fairly small building (like one every few feet), but I guess that’s good because it’s not a sprinklered building)
This system is from my collage and is suspected to be a former simplex 2120 system, likely upgraded to a 4100ES, Renovated spaces have true alert ESs and they added more notification appliances where the 2903s didn’t reach. 2 smoke detectors were replaced and one got a new head, it also appears they added a detector for the elevator recall. A few of the 2903s were replaced with 4903s (likely electronic horns) and one new install 4903. Idk why they installed what appears to be 4050. One 4305 annunciator was in the library and another one in the museum (The building was split up into 4 different sections each with their own entrance). I find it to be a very cool and unique system, though a part of me hopes the system is still a 2120 and they’re using a true alert addressable controller for the true alert ESs.
That system is quite interesting indeed, especially the mix of old & new Simplex devices (seemingly being used together at the same time no less!). Also interesting how some of the “wiffleball” detectors are photoelectric & some are ionization (going by the design of the heads: ones with partially covered slots are ionization & uncovered slot ones are photoelectric from what I’ve seen), & I find it amusing how the one TrueAlarm literally has “RECALL” Sharpied on it, yet has yet to be replaced if it’s actually recalled as well, heh.
A 2120 huh? Might be one of the few still left in service! (if one’s still there at least)
Waltonwood Cherry Hill (Canton Township, MI) - This structure was built in 2002 with an assisting living annex constructed a short time later. All devices can be viewed with Google Maps 360 imagery except for those marked with Photo Tour, which can be viewed on Waltonwood’s webpage.
Annunciators/panels:
<DMP 690-R and 690-W ‘Security Command’ series annunciators throughout the building
<Main panels unknown, but presumably DMP, possibly ESL, and Fire-Lite
Detectors:
<Kidde/Firex battery-operated smoke detectors in resident rooms
<First Alert/BRK battery-operated smoke detectors in resident rooms replacing old Kidde/Firex units (Photo Tour)
<System Sensor 2100S photoelectric detectors in most common areas
<System Sensor 2100RFADT photoelectric detectors in elevator areas
<ESL 700-series photoelectric detectors in the assisting living wing
<System Sensor i3-series photoelectric detectors replacing broken 2100S and 700-series units
Pull stations:
<Fire-Lite NBG-12 units
<DMP t-bars (rebranded Sigcom units) in the assisted living wing behind STI Stopper II covers
Notification appliances:
<System Sensor SpectrAlert horn/strobes and strobes
<White Wheelock NS horn/strobes in the assisted living wing
<At least one white Gentex Commander horn/strobe in a resident room (Photo Tour)
Other:
<System Sensor PA400W horns in all resident rooms above or near Cornell pull-cord stations for nurse calls (the cord, when pulled, triggers an on-off switch)
Mandan Tennis Center- Mandan, ND This place opened in December of 2022. It consists of a dome with 6 courts, 3 outdoor courts, and a small entrance building with a pro shop, a meeting room, and restrooms. The fire alarm system only covers the small entrance building.
Panel: Siemens Cerberus PRO FC901 50 point addressable panel located in the main entrance
Notification Appliances: A Siemens ZH-MC-CR horn/strobe, a Siemens SLHSCW-F horn/strobe, and 3 Siemens SLSWR-F remote strobes
Yes, I am. I saw the model number. It’s an extremely small building. They are probably using less than 10 points because they just have a smoke detector in each room and two pull stations. There is no sprinkler system.
The system is a Gamewell-FCI system with mostly Wheelock/Gamewell-rebranded Wheelock Notification Appliances, as well as a few System Sensor devices. The new area across the bridge has a Notifier System with System Sensor devices.
Those single action BG-12’s are technically rare, but for some reason every Gamewell system I’ve ever seen in person has had those. I’ve also seen a few Silent Knight systems with them. I’ve never seen Notifier or Fire-Lite versions, though.
Was debating if I should put this entry in a pre-existing topic I made or just make a completely new one… A church I visited for formal
This church was originally built in 1914. Since then, there have been expansions to the church. Photo dump:
Spirit of Life Church- Mandan, ND This church was originally built in the 70’s, and was expanded to around 3x the size in the mid-90’s. The fire alarm system was only installed to protect the newer part of the building. The 70’s portion was repurposed into a community food pantry and soup kitchen. The building pretty much remains unchanged since the 90’s addition.
Panel: Likely an EST LSS4
Notification Appliances: EST 792 (Pre-Integrity) horn/strobes and their single-gang remote strobe variants
Pull Stations- EST 270-SPOs
Detectors: EST 6270B or 6250B smoke detectors. I only saw one in the building, right near the entrance to the unprotected 70’s area. This is kind of concerning because most of the building seems to have no automatic detection and this is not a sprinklered building. I hope they have duct detectors. Wherever the panel is (I don’t know), it probably has a detector near it as well.
Annunciator: EST RSA4 annunciator in a cabinet that looks like this (Credit to @El_Chupacabra for the photo (not one that I took from the church)):
The photo shows a SAN annunciator. The only difference is that the church’s annunciator cabinet only has one row of zone annunciation cards with only 4 LED’s in use. Also, the cabinet has tinted glass rather than clear glass. The RSA4 annunciator itself looks like this:
Unlike most systems of this age, I can’t see this one getting replaced anytime soon, as it’s remained untouched and almost completely trouble free since the day it was installed. Also, they are not planning to make any major changes to the building anytime soon.
Thanks to @TheCarson116 and @El_Chupacabra for all of the help identifying the panel and annunciator in this topic, as I really don’t know much at all about EST history (although I do know a little more now!).
Micro Center (Madison Heights, MI) - Opened in 2002, almost all the devices described here can be seen in Google Maps 360 imagery.
Annunciators/panel:
<At least two Radionics keypads (one D1255 at the main entrance foyer, and one D1256 in the checkout area)
<Main panel unknown (it is in a dedicated room, which is a restricted area), but presumably Radionics
Detectors:
<None noticed
Pull stations:
<Radionics t-bars (rebranded RSG RMS-1T units with the cylinder locks), with one at the main entrance protected by a STI Stopper II cover
Notification appliances:
<System Sensor SpectrAlert classic horn/strobes and strobes throughout the building
Other:
<One Alarm Lock PG21MS at the rear emergency exit
<One silver Detex EAX-500 at the front emergency exit, which replaced an Alarm Lock PG21MB shown in Google Maps 360 imagery
Knights of Columbus/Monaghan Banquet Hall (Livonia, MI - built in 1978)
Annunciators/panel:
<Unknown, presumably a later National Time & Signal Corporation (Natsco) 2000-series unit
Detectors:
<Pyrotector 3040-series units throughout the building
Pull stations:
<Natsco Type 641 units next to entry/exit doors
Notification appliances:
<Natsco Type 411R units throughout the building
Hobby Lobby- Bismarck, ND This building was originally opened in the early 80’s as a grocery store and was renovated in the early 2000’s and turned into the Hobby Lovby it is now. The fire alarm system was fully replaced during that renovation and it remains the same to this day.
Panel: Seemingly some kind of older Amseco security based “fire alarm” panel with a keypad at the front door
Notification Appliances: White Amseco ceiling mount Select-A-Horn/Stobes and wall mount remote strobes
Pull Stations: Potter P32-1T pull stations
Detectors: I didn’t see any
This system likely only has a few years left in service, as Hobby Lobby is moving and a clinic will take over the building and renovate it.
