Oddly, the company that services the Ansul systems in my district’s schools likes to hang the tags on the pull stations like that.
Surge Adventure Park: Jacksonville, FL
I apologize for the picture quality on some of these. Some of them are far up or in the jump area.
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This place looks like it could use some new notification appliances. The existing ones will not sync with each other(or at least I don’t think so).
And what are the other NAs? Wheelock ASses?
Believe there were Wheelock MTs and more stray 7002Ts, this was a different walmart in another county that have a house in
Confirmed more AS Notification Appliances, these were near the garden center, i just didn’t add these to my album of fire alarm devices
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Ooh, Radionics rebranded 1st gens! Reminds me of the Walmart in Pikeville, KY at Riverview Plaza. They have these.
AMC Theater, Ft. Meyers, FL
Panel
Simplex 4100+ with voice evacuation
Annunciators
One 4100 annunciator at the front entrance (no picture)
One LED/Controls annunciator behind the snack counter
One LED annunciator behind the snack counter
Pull Stations
Simplex 4099-4001’s under Stopper II’s
Smoke Detectors
1 TrueAlarm smoke detector (no picture)
Multiple older smoke detectors throughout the building
N/A’s
Simplex TrueAlert ceiling mount speakers
Older simplex strobes on the wall
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ShopRite - Somers Point, NJ
Panel: Silent Knight Addressable Panel
Pulls: SD500-PS’
Detectors: At least one SD505-APS
AVs: Indoor: Siemens UMMTs interestingly enough (Could be Faraday branded)
Outdoor: Siemens UMMTs and a handful of Wheelock AS’
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There was no outdoor version of the U-MMT. Did you hear the alarm sound? It may have been a U-MHU-MCS-WP instead.
Possibly, but they appear to be indoor devices in an outdoor setting that are extremely weathered. But the few AS’ look quite weathered as well so who knows. Those devices have been out there a very long time now
Spectronics is / was located in Lincoln Nebraska and was Started by John Damke, an ex engineer of Notifier – Lincoln Nebraska. Back in 2001 I was a distributor for Spectronics but lost favor with them because they did not offer cutting edge products, they rebranded many panels from other manufacturers, many of which I was already a distributor for.
Hilton Minneapolis-St. Paul Airport- Bloomington, MN
Panel: Simplex 4100+ with voice evac handling most of the system, and a Fire-Lite ES-200X handling addressable devices for elevator recall. The ES-200x most likely is wired to trip the 4100+, but I doubt that it works the other way because there are no notification appliances or anything on the ES-200x.
Notification Appliances: Wheelock E(T)70-w speakers. There are no strobes present in the entire 10 story building.
Pull Stations: Mostly ESL 103-01 pull stations with some Fire-Lite BG-12Ls as replacements
Smoke Detectors: Mostly System Sensor 2W-Bs, a few conventional Simplex TrueAlarm smoke detectors, and Fire-Lite SD365 addressable smoke detectors in the elevator lobbies tied into the ES-200X
Overall, I would say this building could do with a complete fire alarm overhaul. It feels like the owners have been trying to get by with the cheapest way possible of keeping their system compliant with the grandfathered codes that apply to their building.
It really does need an overhaul. Cheap shoddy work like this is what puts lives at risk.
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Yeah, especially given how deadly hotel fires have been in the past: need I mention the MGM Grand fire of 1980? (a big contributor to the number of deaths was the lack of a properly-functioning fire alarm system)
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This is why we have Insta hashtags like #whatafirealarmfail.
I find this curious – it seems that there’s a misunderstanding out there for some strange reason that conventional panels can’t be used for elevator recall? (I haven’t been able to find anything that’d prohibit conventional panels and 4-wire relay detectors for recall service, at least for the common case of N/C elevator recall circuits.)
I think the bigger question is “is it sprinklered?” I reckon that sprinklers, especially in a managed environs like a hotel, would cover for what would otherwise be a lot of sins…
Yeah I don’t see why a conventional panel couldn’t handle elevator recall as easily as an addressable panel could (it would probably just be somewhat-more complex).
They sorta would, but I’d say that the ideal setup would be having both in place: a fire alarm system to alert both occupants & the fire department & tell the former to evacuate, & a fire sprinkler system to help control (& maybe even outright extinguish) any fire that breaks out.
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