Fire Alarms in Buildings (2.0)

Sorry for posting too much, but here are more that i visited for the past two days.

Long and McQuade has a Mircom system with System Sensor SpectrAlert Advance horn/strobes, mix of red and white and wall and ceiling mounts. Outside, there is a System Sensor SpectrAlert SR that’s white. There is also a Potter/Amseco Select-A-Horn/Strobe by the entrance. Pulls were all Mircom MS-401.

Value Village has a Notifier system, with a mix of red and white ceiling and wall mount System Sensor SpectrAlert Advanced horn strobes. Pulls were all Notifier NBG-12LX. Menchies didn’t seem to have a system.

Matador has an EST system with Edwards 439D-6AWC bells. Pulls were all Edwards 274-111.

Bon Ton Meat Market has an EST system, (the annunciator is by the front entrance) with EST Genesis horn/strobes (red, wall mount, no FIRE lettering) Outside, there IS a signal, although it’s hardly noticeable. By the entrance under a light, there’s an EST 405-7A-T. Pulls were all EST 270-SPO. I’ll post more systems later.

Why did you quote yourself a second time in the post before your last post and didn’t say anything?

Oh, that was an accident. Sorry. Besides, I want to say that when I said Mircom MS-501, I meant MS-401

The Calgary Public Library has a Notifier NFS-320C system with System Sensor SpectrAlert Classic horn/strobes. Pulls were all Notifier NBG-12LX. It formerly had a Simplex 4010 system, the SpectrAlerts were the original and current signals. The pulls were all Simplex 4099-9001/2099-9754. The Notifier system was added in 2014.
Anyway, come tomorrow, I am going to a few places. I will tell you about the alarms.

I just went to CF Market Mall, and they had a pretty interesting system.

The mall has an EST 3 system with EST Integrity horns and horn/strobes. Most with strobes, but in the halls some don’t. These are the wall mount versions mounted on the ceiling and had ‘FIRE’ sideways! Some are on the walls of some stores. They are white in the halls, and red in the stores. Pulls in the mall are EST 270-GAO. (not a two stage setup tho) There are also white-painted flush-mount adaptahorns scattered around. The Safeway there has an Integrity by the doors, but the signals were System Sensor SpectrAlert Classic horn/strobes. The pulls there were Grinnell rebranded Notifier NFM-950B. There is an Edwards 10’ Single-Stroke Adaptabel with a light under it for the lottery thing. The Toys ‘R’ Us there has the 270-GAOs, but the alarms were EST 882-2B horns.

All strobes sync, and all horns are set to code-3.

The models of the horns and horn/strobes are 757-1A-T and 757-5A-T (15cd).

Sorry for 5 time posting, but i have another one.

I went to Nakiska Ski Resort, the lodge has an Edwards system? with Edwards 881D-AW horns. Pulls were all Edwards 274-111

I sort of figured you would eventually see Adaptahorns since they seem to be very big in Canada.

That’s funny; I remember when twoplyboy had various Canadian fire alarm field testing videos on YouTube, one of them showed a Simplex 4010 system with the classic SpectrAlerts! It was in a school, though. As I may have said, I find it quite odd to see System Sensor signals used on Simplex systems, compared to Notifier systems, where it looks a bit more “normal.” And at least they were able to easily keep the classic SpectrAlerts, due to Notifier and System Sensor both being owned by Honeywell.

I got a rather interesting system that isn’t too far from me.

A Embassy Suits Hotel near me has a Siemens system. Mostly there is UMMT’s and Siemens strobes, while in the lobby there is something interesting. In the lobby there is a Wheelock 7002T and a Gamewell M69. Other decent sized buildings I’ve seen are rather new systems.

It definitely seems quite odd to have System Sensor signals on a Simplex system, but this type of setup is surprisingly not uncommon in Canada. Even though TrueAlerts and Wheelock signals are the most common NAs I see on newer Simplex systems, a minority of these setups use SpectrAlerts.

There are other odd combinations of brands that appear to be common in Canada but not in the United States. It’s not rare, for instance, to see newer Siemens systems with Mircom/Amseco signals, despite Siemens also offering its usual line of rebranded Wheelock devices.

twoplyboy’s belltest video’s are not seen on youtube anymore. A guy scolded him

Well I just got back from running errands, and here are the systems.

Walmart Supercentre in Calgary has an EST QuickStart system, with EST Genesis Horn/Strobes (red, no FIRE lettering.) Pulls are all EST 270-SPO with Stopper II covers. I also find that the red Genesis horn/strobes with no fire lettering are VERY common in my area.

Sobeys Liquor Store has an EST system with the same EST Genesis horn/strobes, however, one is white, but no fire lettering as usual. Pulls are the same 270-SPO.

CO-OP (mentioned twice now) has a Notifier AFP-200 system, with System Sensor SpectrAlert Classic horn/strobes. Pulls were all Notifier NFM-950B.

New Bern Convention Center–New Bern, NC

Late 1990’s-Early 2000’s Notifier Addressable Panel (not visible)—Probably an AFP-Series

Notifier NBG-101L addressable pulls
System Sensor-made Notifier addressable smokes (older models…no info to be found through Notifier)
Unkown Beam Detectors monitored by Notifier monitor modules…I can’t even find pictures, let alone data sheets

Gentex Commander1 HS24 horn/strobes throughout
Gentex Commander1 ST24 remote strobes throughout

Although this is a boring system to many, I found it interesting as there aren’t any Notifier systems of that vintage that I know of in my area and there aren’t any Notifier installations period in my area that use Gentex signals (it’s either Wheelock AS/NS/ZNS or SpectrAlert Classic/Advance signals).

Couple systems:

DoubleTree (Bedford, Massachusetts)
Pulls-Autocall 4050s
Smokes - Room had Gentex photoelectric smoke detectors. Halls had TrueAlerts by the elevators.
Panel - Unknown
NAs: Most of the building had these Federal Signal devices. I’m assuming 950B speakers, but they could be horns.

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The lobby area has them behind Space Age light plates, so I’m assuming the entire bulding had them at one point, hence the odd shape of the plate. Most of the building had Simplex rectangular remote strobes.

Home2Suites (Middletown, New York)
Very standard system here for a new building:
Pulls: Notifier BG-12s
Smokes: Unidentified low-profile Notifier smokes, on sounder bases in rooms
Panel: Unknown. Notifier annunciator at main entrance.
NAs: Everyone’s favorite: SpectrAlert Advances. Horn/strobes in the halls, remote strobes in rooms. No idea what they’re set to, because the evacuation map on the door says the alarm “sounds like a bell”. I know they’re not low-frequency (NY doesn’t require it, anyway).

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I don’t think I have ever seen a horn that looks like that. I’m pretty sure its a speaker.

I am staying at the Panorama Springs Hotel in Panorama BC, and here is the system.

It has an addressable EST system (EST2, EST3) with General Signal MB10-24 bells for the most part. By the end of the 5th floor, there is a General Signal bell installed upside down. In the basement, where you go to the pools, one of the General Signal bells broke down and was replaced with an Edwards MB10-24 bell. In every room, there is a white General Signal silenceable mini-horn. The smokes are all EST SIGA-PS. The pulls are all Edwards 270-SPO. The pull stations were mounted high, 5 ft! It is probably they did that so that kids don’t pull it.

The check in building is small, so there’s no alarm system, just your regular household smoke alarms.

I just visited the General Store there (which has a Thunderbird Pizza) and it has a very interesting system. It has a Mircom FX-2000 system with red Mircom FHS-340 horns. The pulls however are Edwards classic pulls.

The T-Bar And Grill has an Edwards system with an Edwards 439D-10AWC bell. There were two pull stations, both were Edwards 274-111.

a building that has a cafe, has a Notifier system, with Notifier KMS-10-24VDC bells. There is also an Edwards 439D-10AWC by the stairway. Pulls were all Notifier NFM-950B.